<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">See information about a new CS list for discussing the summit in Brazil next May<div><br></div><div>Adam</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">November 15, 2013 1:36:06 PM GMT+09:00<br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a><br></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re: [bestbits] Report back with some options for open/closed lists</b><br></span></div><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 13/11/13 19:04, Tapani Tarvainen
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<pre wrap="">On Nov 12 20:18, Deborah Brown (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org">deborah@accessnow.org</a>) wrote:
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<pre wrap="">I'm reporting back from some discussions among
the interim steering committee* on different options for moving forward.
Here are the some options we came up with:
1. Everything on the public list (i.e. status quo)
2. Using the open list as the default, and have the option of moving
strategic conversations to the private list
3. Using the open list as the default, and starting issue-specific lists
for strategic discussions among civil society. This would follow the model
of the [EC] list that was used to prepare Best Bits' submission to WGEC
(welcoming suggestions to improve that model). Drafting and strategic
discussions took place on the closed list and were reported back to the
main list.
Most of us on steering prefer option 3, but we could not come to an
agreement on whether or not the archives of emails on civil society list
should be public or only available to the members of the list.
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<pre wrap="">I would prefer option three with public archives.
I would, however, also like to point out a possible middle ground:
make the archives public with a delay.
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Since we really need to be moving on with discussions now, and since
it seems that most people can live with option three, and since a
few people have already been subscribing to
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:summit@lists.bestbits.net">summit@lists.bestbits.net</a> in anticipation of option three being
accepted, I'm going to plough ahead and declare that
subject-specific list ready for use.<br>
<br>
Changing the list archives from public to private or to
public-with-delay (subject to technical feasibility) will not be a
problem if a consensus later emerges to do that. So this debate is
not forever closed.<br>
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As a few people have complained, with some fairness, "oh no, not
another list to subscribe to", I'm going to make things slightly
easier for you by folding the private and steering lists into the
summit list. The private and steering lists still exist
independently, but if you are subscribed to either of those, then by
default you are subscribed to summit also. Please email me off-list
if you are on private or steering and don't want to be on summit.<br>
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However the main Best Bits list, is not being folded into the summit
list, so if you are only a member of the main list, you will need to
subscribe to summit (or private) separately at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.bestbits.net/wws">http://lists.bestbits.net/wws</a>.<br>
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I'm also cognisant that JFC Morfin has set up another summit
specific list in conjunction with this <a href="http://bramsummit.org">bramsummit.org</a> wiki, and
normally I wouldn't want to ride roughshod over that by opening a
new list. However as there was the desire for a Best Bits summit
list, and as there have been no messages posted to the
<a href="http://bramsummit.org">bramsummit.org</a> list yet, I hope neither he nor anyone else will
mind.<br>
<br>
Please forward this to any other civil society participants whom you
know want to discuss the summit but who aren't on the main Best Bits
list. If you have any other questions or concerns, please let me or
the interim steering committee know.<br>
<br>
Thanks!<br>
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