<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Correct. And If you, Louis, want to call him a liar as you seem to imply, please do that on an ietf list or in personal mail to the chair. <br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 01-Nov-2013, at 9:34, avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@ella.com">avri@ella.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div><span><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; ; "><br></span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; ; ">[LP]</span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; ; ">"Is IETF trying to make us believe that they did not know about NSA shenanigans, published in 2005 "<br></span></font></div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; ; "><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; font-size: large;">New chair since then.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; font-size: large;"><br></span></div><div><font size="4"><span style="font-family: 'times new roman', serif; ; ">I am not sure he is worrying about what you do our do not believe. He seems to be announcing that the ietf is going to work on the problem.</span></font></div></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">avri</div><div style="font-size:75%"><br></div><div style="font-size:75%">Sent from a T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>____________________________________________________________</span><br><span>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</span><br><span> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a></span><br><span>To be removed from the list, visit:</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>For all other list information and functions, see:</span><br><span> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a></span><br><span>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:</span><br><span> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/">http://www.igcaucus.org/</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Translate this email: <a href="http://translate.google.com/translate_t">http://translate.google.com/translate_t</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>