<div dir="ltr">Wolfie, I like that quote: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Building bridges is better than building walls." That is to feature next to other famous quotes such as, for instance, the Unesco's "It is in the mind of man..." about war and peace. (Or is that a common meme that just escaped my attention? In which case I guess I'm sounding ridiculous right now.)</span><div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Anyway, as I also already said before --so I agree not only with Wolfgang but also with myself ;-) --it's better to start with positively defining one's identity (by clarifying what it is, what you stand for) before negatively defining or applying it, if at all (by saying who's not in, who's out of it.)</span></div>
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Mawaki</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:langdonorr@gmail.com" target="_blank">langdonorr@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:trebuchet ms,sans-serif">Missed this while travelling but I want to give me total support to what Wolfgang (and others) are saying here... It resonates perfectly with my approach of "being at the discussion table to be able to influence and make change" approach... </div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div>On 26 October 2013 11:22, "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang" <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de" target="_blank">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>Being located in different baskets does not mean that you have not a lot of things in common. As I said in a previous mail, CS has to start from its basic values and interests. From this point we have to identify the spaces for close cooperation with other stakeholders, including PS and TC. In this process we will discover also the differences (as recently in the Bali discussion around the proposed Brazil meeting)which does not exclude a close collaboration where we can work together. Building bridges is better than building walls.<br>
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wolfgang<br>
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> im Auftrag von Norbert Bollow<br>
Gesendet: Sa 26.10.2013 03:47<br>
An: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
Cc: Constance Bommelaer<br>
Betreff: [governance] Stakeholder group distinctions (was Re: Ad hoc...)<br>
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David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au" target="_blank">dave@difference.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> The 'Technical Community Role in Global Internet Governance'<br>
> workshop on Thursday made it fairly clear that the division between<br>
> technical community and civil society (or other stakeholder groups)<br>
> is a fairly artificial one, with many of us filling a variety of<br>
> different roles at different times<br>
<br>
What does this imply for processes such as the CSTD WG on Enhanced<br>
Cooperation where the selection of participants is based on this kind<br>
of stakeholder categories?<br>
<br>
If I've been hearing right what Constance Bommelaer, who was the tech<br>
community "focal point" for that selection process, has been telling<br>
me (I'm Cc'ing Constance in the hope that she'll correct me if I'm in<br>
any way misrepresenting this), the tech community's selection process<br>
has been based on the goal of selecting people who are somehow<br>
specifically representative of the particular kind of perspective that<br>
is characteristic of that community of techies and academics.<br>
<br>
Furthermore, they're working on a paper that will explain this and<br>
the underlying principles in significant clarity.<br>
<br>
I think that it will be very valuable for us in civil society to follow<br>
that example and undertake a similar clarification exercise in regard<br>
to our own identity as a community, etc.<br>
<br>
Greetings,<br>
Norbert<br>
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