<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>I stayed till the end of the meeting (though my name is missing from the attendance list).</span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>One clear outcome of the meeting (apart from letting off steam) is the realization that we NEED the IGC.<br><br>Here are the other desires that I heard expressed:</span></div><ol><li><span>The need for each lister to observe the rule of "be liberal in what you receive and conservative in what you send"</span></li><li><span>The need to limit posts/replies/communications to a number of words, like 200.</span></li><li><span>The need to maybe limit personal "opinions" on a particular thread to
maximum of posts, like 2/3. State your opinion as clearly as you can and do not overflog it.</span></li><li><span>NO attacks on persons. <br></span></li><li><span>De Williams was asking if there was a technology that can make posts anonymous. The other option will be to reply to issues... without including people's names. It will help us focus on issues instead of persons</span></li><li><span>The possibility of having thematic leads, for content/input coordination purposes</span></li><li><span>Clarifying our common interest: are we politicians or advocates?<br></span></li><li><span>The IMPORTANCE of respecting the co-cos. And keeping them out of the "war zone"</span></li></ol><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Hope these prove useful<br></div><div> <br>Nnenna<br></div><div><br
style="font-family:courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;"><br><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-style:italic;"></span></div><div style="display: block;" class="yahoo_quoted"> <br> <br> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:35 AM, Qusai AlShatti <qshatti@gmail.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2445698601"><div>+1<br clear="none"><br clear="none">On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Izumi AIZU wrote:<br clear="none"><div class="yiv2445698601yqt9007380106" id="yiv2445698601yqt69931"><blockquote class="yiv2445698601gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><span></span>First,
Andrea, are you OK with the accident? I hope you have good recovery.<span></span><div>
<br clear="none"></div><div>Well, while I am in Bali, I could not attend the IGC meeting yesterday as I had</div>
<div>to attend MAG meeting with the UN ASG during the lunch time.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I also heard that it was a very rough meeting and many members left the room</div><div>before closure.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have not heard yet of the real issues they had that led this walk out.</div>
<div><br clear="none"></div><div>But in any case, I hope we would fix this asap.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>izumi</div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div class="yiv2445698601gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2445698601gmail_quote">2013/10/23 Andrea Glorioso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">andrea@digitalpolicy.it</a>></span><br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv2445698601gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I'm writing this in a personal capacity. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>I'm not in Bali (I was not supposed to go and in any case I was hit by a car on Saturday - must have been destiny :) but I just want to share how sad I am to read that "<font><span style="">Emotions were high which resulted in some walking out of the meeting." </span></font></div>
<div><font><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font><span style="">I'm not interested in naming & blaming, but let me stress forcefully that this moment in the history of the Internet needs a strong and (critically) constructive civil society. </span></font></div>
<div><font><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font><span style="">Without that, any result of the ongoing discussions will be unavoidably unsustainable. </span></font></div>
<div><font><span style=""><br clear="none"></span></font></div><div><font><span>Best wishes to all those who are in Bali (and keep up the mails / tweets :)</span></font></div><div><div>
<div><br clear="none">On Wednesday, October 23, 2013, Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<br clear="none">
<blockquote class="yiv2445698601gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear All,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>This is the draft minutes of the meeting of the IGC yesterday. Please advise whether I missed anyone's name out or if they would like to add to the draft minutes. I will formalize the minutes as soon as everyone is okay with them.<br clear="none">
<br clear="none"></div>Kind Regards,<br clear="none"></div>Sala<br clear="none"></div>
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