<div dir="ltr">Decidedly, the Bali trip is a priesthood for me. Kenya Airways has<br>experienced problems:<br>-departing from Kinshasa, the flight was delayed for 3 hours;<br>-Nairobi, the connection to Bangkok has been postponed due to a failure of<br>
pressurisation in the aircraft;<br>I just arrived in Bangkok with a delay for connection with Jakarta;<br>I leave tomorrow morning at 6.30 Bangkok and Jakarta to Bali.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/23 Mawaki Chango <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kichango@gmail.com" target="_blank">kichango@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Thanks, Jeremy, for alerting us about what is going on with the "technical" community.<div>Personally, I'm okay with moving the call for endorsement to 24hrs earlier --just as I agree with the need for more private/f2f strategizing.</div>
<div><br></div><div>McTim, multistakeholder does not mean anti-governmentalism. Nor does it say the "technical community" takes over from government. It really means "on equal footing" etc., governments included, if you ask me. Furthermore, I do not think I have any track record for celebrating governments, but I'll say this. In some circumstances, governments may be evil, but it was also a world led by governments which gave us the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and related texts, which have served as formidable normative tools for social progress. And sometimes, some of them put a stake into seeing those norms upheld. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Left to their own devices, techies don't necessarily have the best interest of the user at heart (I suspect Vint Cerf would agree with me since while opposing the notion that Internet is a HR, he suggested that designers could do a better job in making the technology more HR-friendly, so to speak, in short.) While they do a lot of wonderful things --there's no denying that, not of my part anyway-- techies cannot write a clean and accurate user guide for... users! It is my sense that they are mostly impressed with impressing their peers, as is often the case with minority groups of meritocrats. So yes, seeing "multistakeholderism" as the opportunity to shift from "government-centric" to "techno-centric" should be a matter of concern to CS --or to any plain citizen, for that matter.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm just saying -- "on equal footing" my dear!</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div></font></span><div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Mawaki <br></font></span><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:37 PM, McTim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div>
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Jeremy,<br>
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:57 AM, Jeremy Malcolm <<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> I haven't had a chance to write about the technical community meeting that<br>
> took place at lunchtime today, but it felt (to me) like an astonishing<br>
> power-grab in progress - they are forming a new coalition that will create a<br>
> "grassroots" campaign, with the pre-determined objective of reasserting the<br>
> primacy of "the" multi-stakeholder model against "government-centric"<br>
> models.<br>
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</div>CS should not have a problem with that, we should embrace it as it<br>
gives CS more clout than a Inter-gov model, no?<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
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route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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