<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear Norbert,<br><br></div>From among your list of topics to discuss at a possible IGC meeting (which I agree would be good to have), I think it could be very helpful if we would emphasise on a (the Internet governance landscape and power distribution), d (selection processes) and e (the IGC itself) <i>in their interlinkages</i>: how are we going to effectively participate over the next few months in this changing landscape and how can we strengthen the IGC to support those efforts?<br>
<br></div>I also gladly will share some thoughts with you in a person-to-person conversation - much appreciate the offer. <br>.<br></div><div>Many thanks, <br>Anja<br></div><div><br></div> <br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 October 2013 14:31, Luca Belli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lucabelli@hotmail.it" target="_blank">lucabelli@hotmail.it</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div dir="ltr"><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font>Dear Norbert and all,</font></span></p><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font><br>
</font></span></p><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font>I will be very happy to meet you in Bali. If it is not possible to have an official IGC meeting (for whatever reason), perhaps it is still possible to organise some kind of informal and hopefully “convivial” meeting (for instance meeting up for lunch/dinner or after dinner)? </font></span></p>
<p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font>I will arrive in Bali on Monday morning and I look forward to meeting you.</font></span></p><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span lang="EN-US"><font>All the best,</font></span></p><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font><br></font></span></p><p style="font-family:arial,verdana,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="EN-US"><font>Luca </font></span></p>
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<div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt" align="left"><font color="#4f81bd"><i><br></i></font></div><br><br><div>> From: <a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a><br>> Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 08:16:11 +0200<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; <a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a><br>> Subject: Re: [governance] Let's meet in Bali!<div>
<div class="h5"><br>> <br>> Norbert<br>> <br>> There was nothing hostile (or oafish) about my question. Every year coordinators used to organize meetings at IGFs (although right, not at Baku...). You didn't propose to do so but suggested private meetings with you about which people should email you off list. I asked if the one is a replacement for the other. That's it. Effects don't precede causes, so please don't blame me for you'd not intended to do before I asked.<br>
> <br>> More generally, caucus members have always had varying views, but the meetings have worked fine and I don't recall any heated interpersonal arguments. There is no reason to believe a meeting now would be any different.<br>
> <br>> Thanks,<br>> <br>> Bill<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 4:59 AM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>
> > Angela and Sonigitu<br>> > <br>> > You can of course organize something...<br>> > <br>> > I'm not organizing an IGC meeting in Bali. I wouldn't have minded doing<br>> > so if it had been requested politely, but the tone of Bill's posting,<br>
> > together with the fact that he hardly ever deems me worthy of any<br>> > interaction except in the context of attacking me, doesn't let it<br>> > appear likely that such a meeting would turn out to be friendly or<br>
> > productive. Frankly, just doing what is required in regard to this list,<br>> > which according to IGC Charter is the IGC's priority working space, is<br>> > already exposing me to so much hostility that I am not willing to<br>
> > expose myself to additional hostility by organizing a meeting that would<br>> > quite likely be full of it.<br>> > <br>> > Greetings,<br>> > Norbert<br>> > <br>> > <br>> > Am Wed, 16 Oct 2013 03:18:02 +0100<br>
> > schrieb Sonigitu Ekpe <<a href="mailto:soekpe@gmail.com" target="_blank">soekpe@gmail.com</a>>:<br>> > <br>> >> +1. At least to have face to face interaction.<br>> >> <br>> >> Best regards.<br>
> >> <br>> >> Sonigitu Ekpe Aji :-@ SEA<br>> >> <br>> >> "Life becomes more meaningful; when we think of others, positively."<br>> >> <br>> >> +234 8027510179<br>
> >> On Oct 16, 2013 8:59 AM, "Angela Daly" <<a href="mailto:angelacdaly@gmail.com" target="_blank">angelacdaly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> >> <br>> >>> It would be great to meet everyone in Bali in person!<br>
> >>> <br>> >>> Angela<br>> >>> <br>> >>> <br>> >>> On 16 October 2013 04:23, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
> >>> wrote:<br>> >>> <br>> >>>> Hi<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Unless my memory is failing me, from Athens forward I believe<br>> >>>> there have always been caucus meetings at the IGF. Is that<br>
> >>>> happening again, or is it proposed that this be replaced by<br>> >>>> bilateral encounters with one of the co-cos?<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Thanks,<br>> >>>> <br>
> >>>> Bill<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>> >>>> <br>
> >>>> [with IGC coordinator hat on]<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Dear all<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Any many of us will be in Bali during the next week, I would like<br>
> >>>> to meet as many as possible of you in person.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> I'm particularly interested in meeting some of those who belong to<br>> >>>> the silent majority in the IGC, i.e. people who post rarely if at<br>
> >>>> all (regardless of what the reason for that may be).<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> We can discuss any topic you like. For example you could help me<br>> >>>> get a better understanding of your needs in regard to global civil<br>
> >>>> society structures in the area of Internet governance. I may not<br>> >>>> be able to promise that the IGC can meet all of those needs, but<br>> >>>> as long as I don't know about your needs, I don't even have a<br>
> >>>> chance to try doing anything about them.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Please email me off-list if you think that you can find some time.<br>> >>>> <br>> >>>> Greetings,<br>
> >>>> Norbert<br>> > <br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> <br></div></div></div> </div></div>
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