<div dir="ltr"><div>After Brazil, what next?<br><br>"The outcomes should be action-oriented, proposing concrete measures to democratise and internationalise global Internet<br>
governance acceptable to all."<br><br><br></div>On who should get credit, lets remember this "It is wise to persuade people to do things and make them think it was their own idea." - Nelson Mandela<br><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 October 2013 12:02, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Bill,</p>
<p>You agree with the letter?we cannot wait to have more info?</p><span><font color="#888888">
<p>Rafik</p></font></span><div><div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 12, 2013 5:59 PM, "William Drake" <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi<div><br></div><div>I agree with Anriette that the shorter version is better and the IGF should be mentioned. The statement could be seen and the summit will presumably involve governments that have been dismissive or opposed to the IGF and multistakeholder more generally, so it'd be good to underscore the need for open and inclusive dialogue before the summit is taken up in the GA or other settings. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Best</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 11, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Anriette Esterhuysen <<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">I would add just one reference to the final paragraph of this shorter<br>version which I think is very good.<br><br>In view of the global importance of this subject, we look forward to discussing it further at the upcoming Internet Governance Forum in Bali, and to contributing <br>
to your initiative with specific and concrete proposals.<br><br>I am not opposed to this letter, but still leaning toward's Anja and<br>other's advice to wait a while. I also feel the letter<br>I also believe we need to be consistent. When the 2011 IBSA proposal was<br>
made by India and Brazil there was an outcry in the IGF community and<br>all three governments were urged to discuss these proposals at the IGF<br>before tabling them at the GA?<br><br>Do we no longer think this is important?<br>
<br>Anriette<br><br><br>On 11/10/2013 21:35, Lee W McKnight wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite">Quick edit of last paragraph.<br><br>Lee<br>________________________________________<br>From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] on behalf of Ian Peter [<a href="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" target="_blank">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>]<br>
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 3:31 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Norbert Bollow<br>Subject: Re: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process<br>
<br>Far too long. If we are to send anything, here is a suggested shorter<br>version.<br><br>Your Excellency President Rousseff and other representatives of<br>the Brazilian government<br><br>We, the undersigned civil society organizations and individuals from<br>
around the world, would like to express our appreciation and support<br>for the recently announced initiative of the government of Brazil,<br>along with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>(ICANN), to “discuss the necessary changes to Internet governance” and<br>
to restore trust in the Internet as the foundation of our global<br>information societies.<br><br>We consider these to be discussions of crucial importance for the<br>future of the development of the Internet in the global public interest<br>
and for the shared benefit of the peoples of the world.<br><br>In view of the global importance of this subject, we look forward to contributing <br>to your initiative with specific and concrete proposals.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Norbert Bollow<br>Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2013 2:29 AM<br>To: IGC<br>Subject: [governance] DMP} Draft letter text - IGC consensus process<br><br>Here is the current content of the etherpad where informal drafting has<br>
taken place:<br><br>--snip------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Letter from International Civil Society Organizations to the government<br>of Brazil in regard to the planned event on Internet governance in 2014<br>
<br>Your Excellency President Rousseff and other representatives of<br>the Brazilian government<br><br>We, the undersigned civil society organizations and individuals from<br>around the world, would like to express our appreciation and support<br>
for the recently announced initiative of the government of Brazil,<br>along with the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>(ICANN), to “discuss the necessary changes to Internet governance” and<br>to restore trust in the Internet as the foundation of our global<br>
information societies.<br><br>We consider these to be discussions of crucial importance for the<br>future of the development of the Internet in the global public interest<br>and for the shared benefit of the peoples of the world.<br>
<br>In view of the global importance of this subject, we look to civil<br>society being an equal partner to this dialogue at all stages from<br>agenda-setting onwards, and that the preparatory process for the<br>planned event be open and transparent and inclusive of all interested<br>
parties. This process should be particularly focused on realizing the<br>broadest base of shared benefits for the global community including<br>support for economic and social development, and innovation in pursuit<br>of the resolution of significant matters of broad impact and concern.<br>
<br>We further note with appreciation that Brazil has a strong tradition<br>and experience with effective partnerships with civil society on many<br>important domestic and global issues, including most notably for this<br>
context the proposed Marco Civil for which we as international civil<br>society organizations and individuals provide our strong endorsement,<br>and the highly successful CGI model of Internet governance at the<br>national level. This event presents an outstanding opportunity to move<br>
these experiences forward into the emerging area of global Internet<br>governance. The discussions should be action-oriented, proposing<br>concrete measures to democratise and internationalise global Internet<br>governance.<br>
<br>We look forward to learning more details of the event as<br>they emerge and to contributing to this with specific and concrete<br>proposals which will be the subject of discussion during upcoming<br>meetings during the Bali IGF.<br>
<br>The undersigned civil society organisations from across the world offer<br>their support to your initiative and will look forward to partnering in<br>its various processes as they evolve.<br><br>We look forward to contributing to the successful development of the<br>
global Internet governance event in 2014 and to the new mechanisms and<br>arrangements that develop from it.<br><br>Yours sincerely<br>--snap------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>I personally would have preferred a simpler and shorter letter (and one<br>
that is more specifically from IGC) but since this is what has come out<br>of an informal drafting process in which quite a few IGC members have<br>already participated, I feel that it may be best to take this as the<br>
starting point for the IGC consensus process.<br>
<br>The idea here is that I hope that IGC can reach consensus (or at least<br>rough consensus) on either accepting this text as-is, or on some<br>some modified version is derived from this, and that we'd then put that<br>
up also inviting civil society organizations as well as individuals to<br>endorse.<br><br>[with IGC coordinator hat on]<br><br>Please post any disagreements regarding the draft text together with a<br>specific proposal for a change and your justification for why you ask<br>
for this change.<br><br>In view of the situation that the letter can be expected to be most<br>effective if it is ready soon, please give this process a high priority<br>and post change requests as quickly as reasonably possible. I have no<br>
idea yet what will be appropriate in regard to consensus process<br>deadlines. Just in case we might end in an unpleasantly<br>time-constrained situation where tight deadlines are needed, I'd like<br>to request IGC members who strongly care about the specific details of<br>
the outcome of this consensus process to check their IGC email at<br>least every twelve hours.<br><br>The other thread, in which I invited any fundamental objection to such a<br>letter to be voiced, is also still open.<br>
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