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    <font face="Verdana">It is here<br>
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      Just a word of caution - we dont want to make this an ominbus
      document of demands. At this stage we need a clear, crisp and
      strong letter, of a few sentences, that Brazilian President or
      some top guy would actually read, and not get confusing messages.
      I am not saying we should not say whatever we definitively want to
      say - but be clear and short, that is all.<br>
      <br>
      parminder<br>
      <br>
      <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 11 October 2013 11:15 AM,
      Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAH5sTh=5W81ExEEi9--ctzsF8MKitVH1xZ_0CeZxOSNTKjdEtg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Parminder,
        <div><br>
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        <div>sorry I am not really getting the proposal you are
          developing here? can you please clarify?</div>
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                Rafik </div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/11 parminder <span dir="ltr"><<a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>></span><br>
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                <font face="Verdana">Since as argued below, in our
                  judgement, time is strategically of essense, some of
                  us would keep working on a posible text over today and
                  try to present something to IGC and BB by the end of
                  the day.... We do very much hope IGC and BB can sign
                  on it by consensus, but it doesnt happen we would open
                  it to organisations and people who want to sign it
                  (sorry, this is a practice I normally do not like so
                  much, but I dont think it is ok that we can produce a
                  statement to critique a UN process is just no time,
                  with all kind of ambiguous languages, and on such an
                  important - potential game changer - initiative  from
                  a developing country, a paralysis seems to be setting
                  in)...<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
                      <br>
                      parminder <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
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                    <div>On Friday 11 October 2013 11:02 AM, parminder
                      wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite"> Well let then that be as it
                      has to be... "<span>There is <em>a tide</em> in
                        the <em>affairs of men</em>. Which, taken at
                        the flood, leads on to fortune"... </span><br>
                      <br>
                      Leadership doesnt come searching for you, you have
                      to seize it.... President Rousseff was made, what
                      would have perhaps been, somewhat a regular kind
                      of offer. She seized it with both her hands, even
                      announced the like month etc.. That is what gave
                      it such a sudden high prominence, and people are
                      celebrating Rousseff, and somewhere, if it plays
                      its cards well, Brazil have now got an edge....
                      which it can use to further its interest...<br>
                      <br>
                      Civil society also is supposed to be representing
                      some interests - real interests of real people,
                      who are most marginalised, and we have to take our
                      own responsibility seriously . We cannot be
                      eternally paralysed, which hurts these interests.
                      If there are real differences of views, well, that
                      counts.... But a permanent simple wait-and-watch
                      attitude would do us no good...<br>
                      <br>
                      Lets analyse what we have here.... Or what risks
                      we run and what gains we can make...  And others
                      must also contribute what they think are risks or
                      advantages.... merely saying we are not sure yet,
                      tells talk more, do face to face and all,,,, Such
                      stuff I think, just my own view, is not the
                      appropriate response. <br>
                      <br>
                      ICANN, either on its own or tech community's
                      behalf tries to cosy up to the Brazilians (perhaps
                      in anticipation of the new proposal for
                      democratising global IG that Rousseff said Brazil
                      will soon present - BTW, the day of the annual
                      discussion on WSIS and IG issues in the UN GA is
                      22nd Oct, but whatever...) . It proposes a real
                      dialogue to see what needs to be changed about the
                      global governance of the Internet. Rousseff
                      immediately seizes the initiative, and even
                      declares a possible timeline, just like that,
                      off-hand.... That is leadership material. That is
                      all that has happened, and that is all anyone
                      knows has happened. There is nothing hidden that
                      civil society may suddenly become complicit to if
                      they support this proposal.<br>
                      <br>
                      In supporting it, we would only be saying - <br>
                      (1) yes, we agree that 'a real dialogue' on what
                      needs to change in global governance of the
                      Internet should take place with some urgency, <br>
                      (2) such a dialogue should take place in an open
                      and not  a hidden manner, <br>
                      (3) it is certainly encouraging that the
                      initiative comes from one of the key developing
                      nations - the main votaries of a 'real change' -
                      and ICANN or the technical community - seen as the
                      main symbol and defender of status quo,and that <br>
                      (4) we want civil society to be equally there in
                      the middle of all action, as the dialogue shapes
                      and takes place...<br>
                      <br>
                      Nothing more and nothing less. (If anything
                      sinister about the proposed meeting surfaces at
                      any later time we can as publicly withdraw our
                      support, saying this is  not at all what we
                      bargained for)<br>
                      <br>
                      So either people here agree to the above, and we
                      can write a statement, or they dont... This is the
                      time to do the statement, when people are still
                      wondering what kind of initiative it really is,
                      and with what implications. Throw in our hat - and
                      well, kind of make this thing somewhat trilateral
                      from its current bi-lateral status (Brazil - ICANN
                      tech community) We may not succeed, but we must
                      try. .... In a few weeks, the initiative would
                      already be too solidified in fact, or in people's
                      mind for civil society support to have this kind
                      of impact....<br>
                      <br>
                      Parminder <br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <div>On Friday 11 October 2013 05:56 AM, Ian Peter
                        wrote:<br>
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                            <div>I agree with Deborah – lets wait till a
                              bit more information emerges. We can draft
                              a letter which is more meaningful when we
                              have a better idea of the scope,
                              objectives, possible outcomes, likely
                              attendees, and possible processes for the
                              conference. It’s quite likely more
                              information will emerge in the next week
                              or so, therefore I think we should discuss
                              at Bali and before then try to find out a
                              little more.</div>
                            <div> </div>
                            <div>Ian Peter</div>
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                                <div> </div>
                                <div style="BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      title="deborah@accessnow.org"
                                      href="mailto:deborah@accessnow.org"
                                      target="_blank">Deborah Brown</a>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 11,
                                    2013 10:35 AM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      title="nnenna75@gmail.com"
                                      href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">Nnenna Nwakanma</a>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><b>Cc:</b> <a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      title="bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance]
                                    RE: [bestbits] Rousseff &
                                    Chehade: Brazil will host world
                                    event on Internet governance in 2014</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Dear all, 
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>I see the advantage of engaging
                                  early on this, but I'm a bit concerned
                                  that we are rushing unnecessarily to
                                  finalize a letter before many of us
                                  travel and are otherwise
                                  overstretched. I wonder if it might
                                  make more sense to continue this
                                  discussion online and take advantage
                                  of the in-person meetings in Bali, for
                                  those of us attending, to develop a CS
                                  agenda. Also, as others have pointed
                                  out, we know so little about the
                                  initiative at this point.</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>The draft text (available here: <a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/Brazil2014"
                                    target="_blank">http://igcaucus.org:9001/p/Brazil2014</a>)
                                  does not seem to capture the cautious
                                  optimism that a number of people have
                                  expressed. I also have concerns about
                                  providing our "strongest endorsement"
                                  of the Marco Civil process, when that
                                  process is not yet complete. Of course
                                  the text of the letter could change
                                  dramatically in just a few hours ;)<br>
                                </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>I find Nnenna's approach to be
                                  sound, but it does imply a follow on
                                  communication with more concrete
                                  proposals. I wonder if it might be
                                  more effective to streamline our
                                  communication to the Brazilian
                                  president and head of ICANN. </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>To sum up, I see clear advantages
                                  to both "striking while the iron is
                                  hot" and a more cautious approach. But
                                  given the factors I mentioned above, I
                                  would support taking some extra time
                                  if we need it. In any case, I'm
                                  looking forward to hearing others'
                                  ideas and continuing the discussion
                                  around this important development. </div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Best regards, <br>
                                  Deborah </div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 10,
                                  2013 at 3:41 PM, Nnenna Nwakanma <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:nnenna75@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank">nnenna75@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>Dear all<br>
                                            <br>
                                            <ol>
                                              <li>I do believe that if
                                                any support there is,
                                                from the civil society,
                                                it is support for an
                                                IDEA that "appears" more
                                                open and inclusive that
                                                the current IGF </li>
                                              <li>So I am cautious about
                                                writing a letter that
                                                may be in any way
                                                understood as  "Civil
                                                Society lauds Dilma and
                                                ICANN's push". </li>
                                              <li>A short letter
                                                informing that global
                                                Civil Society that are
                                                working on, concerned
                                                about and/or interested
                                                in IG and Internet
                                                issues  intend to play
                                                key roles in the summit.
                                              </li>
                                              <li>I believe we should
                                                communicate key values
                                                we plan to pursue in the
                                                summit </li>
                                              <li>Underline the central
                                                idea of multistakeholder
                                                participation </li>
                                              <li>Say that we are
                                                beginnning discussions
                                                about the diverse roles
                                                that CS can play and
                                                that some time in Bali
                                                will be dedicated to the
                                                issue during the BB
                                                meeting in Bali.<br>
                                                <br>
                                              </li>
                                            </ol>
                                          </div>
                                          If we recall, workshop 127 in
                                          Bali will be discussing the MS
                                          Selection processes, and I do
                                          hope, personally that we can
                                          use that opportunity to
                                          sharpen the focus.  A reminder
                                          of the WS is on <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2013/workshop_2013_status_list_view.php?xpsltipq_je=127"
                                            target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2013/workshop_2013_status_list_view.php?xpsltipq_je=127</a><br>
                                          <br>
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                                        I am traveling in unconnected
                                        rural areas but will be back
                                        online and I'm happy to
                                        contribute language if any text
                                        begins to surface.  In case I do
                                        not, here are my ideas:<br>
                                      </div>
                                      <ol>
                                        <li>Say what exactly it is the
                                          global CS is supporting, which
                                          is the idea, and not the
                                          institutions </li>
                                        <li>Make a clear statement on
                                          our willingness to engage </li>
                                        <li>Recall that our engagement
                                          is based on the
                                          Multistakeholder principle </li>
                                        <li>Inform that discussions have
                                          started and are ongoing </li>
                                        <li>Say we will be coming up
                                          with ore concrete engagement
                                          proposals </li>
                                        <li>Requesto have fundamental
                                          info, if available, to help us
                                          scope the idea itself.</li>
                                      </ol>
                                      <p>Best</p>
                                      <span><font color="#888888">
                                          <p> </p>
                                          <p>Nnenna<br>
                                          </p>
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                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                  Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at
                                                  7:01 PM, Joana Varon <span
                                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joana@varonferraz.com" target="_blank">joana@varonferraz.com</a>></span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          people, <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          For the level
                                                          of information
                                                          I have (which
                                                          is basically:
                                                          Brazil and
                                                          ICANN have
                                                          proposed to
                                                          host a Summit
                                                          on Internet
                                                          after April -
                                                          coincidentally
                                                          or right after
                                                          the meeting on
                                                          Sharm el Sheik
                                                          and before the
                                                          presidential
                                                          elections
                                                          period), I
                                                          don't feel
                                                          comfortable
                                                          about writing
                                                          a letter
                                                          congratulating
                                                          for something
                                                          I dont really
                                                          know what it
                                                          is. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          But I do truly
                                                          support Anja's
                                                          suggestion to
                                                          start working
                                                          on our agenda
                                                          online and,
                                                          with a
                                                          potential to
                                                          be much
                                                          richer, during
                                                          our several
                                                          meetings in
                                                          Bali. (what do
                                                          we want from
                                                          all this
                                                          besides
                                                          participating
                                                          in the
                                                          Summit??) <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        In the
                                                        meanwhile, I
                                                        rather take
                                                        breath to
                                                        understand and
                                                        discuss this
                                                        with the
                                                        Brazilian
                                                        government and
                                                        Brazilian
                                                        colleagues from
                                                        civil society or
                                                        other sectors.
                                                        And see what is
                                                        the final draft
                                                        of Marco Civil
                                                        that the
                                                        government will
                                                        bring to our
                                                        table very soon
                                                        (if it truly
                                                        endorses all the
                                                        principles she
                                                        has mentioned at
                                                        the UNGA). <br>
                                                        <br>
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                                                      I'm sorry if it's
                                                      a bit of a skeptic
                                                      or over cautious
                                                      position, but I
                                                      really need more
                                                      inputs to see the
                                                      big picture.  <br>
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                                                      <div>All the best<span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          joana<br>
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                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Thu, Oct 10,
                                                          2013 at 2:59
                                                          PM, michael
                                                          gurstein <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          -----Original
                                                          Message-----<br>
                                                          From: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a><br>
                                                          [mailto:<a
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href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>]
                                                          On Behalf Of
                                                          Carlos A.
                                                          Afonso<br>
                                                          Sent:
                                                          Thursday,
                                                          October 10,
                                                          2013 10:12 AM<br>
                                                          To: McTim<br>
                                                          Cc: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
                                                          michael
                                                          gurstein; Lee
                                                          W McKnight;
                                                          Rafik<br>
                                                          Dammak; Joana
                                                          Varon;
                                                          &lt,<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net</a>&gt,;



                                                          NCSG List<br>
                                                          Subject: Re:
                                                          [governance]
                                                          RE: [bestbits]
                                                          Rousseff &
                                                          Chehade:
                                                          Brazil will<br>
                                                          host world
                                                          event on
                                                          Internet
                                                          governance in
                                                          2014<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Dear
                                                          compa McT,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          You being a
                                                          rigorous
                                                          techie, maybe
                                                          you will not
                                                          change your
                                                          logical
                                                          view...<br>
                                                          :) And I
                                                          understand
                                                          there is a lot
                                                          of people in
                                                          all sectors
                                                          who feel<br>
                                                          disturbed by
                                                          the emerging
                                                          presence of
                                                          Brazil and its
                                                          concrete
                                                          proposals to<br>
                                                          finally move
                                                          on.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          At the very
                                                          beginning Fadi
                                                          describes the
                                                          motivation --
                                                          Rousseff's
                                                          statement<br>
                                                          at the UN, her
                                                          clear
                                                          adherence to
                                                          the basic
                                                          principles
                                                          most of civil
                                                          society<br>
                                                          defends (which
                                                          she has
                                                          repeated
                                                          several times
                                                          in her radio
                                                          program and
                                                          her<br>
                                                          twitter
                                                          @dilmabr), and
                                                          her proposal
                                                          to build a
                                                          planetary
                                                          framework of<br>
                                                          rights. This
                                                          did not come
                                                          out of the
                                                          blue, from a
                                                          meeting of IP
                                                          addressers<br>
                                                          in a wonderful
                                                          city called
                                                          Montevideo. Do
                                                          you think Fadi
                                                          just dropped
                                                          by the<br>
                                                          presidential
                                                          door in
                                                          Brasilia,
                                                          knocked and
                                                          entered to
                                                          sell that
                                                          proposal? :)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Anyway, it is
                                                          relevant to
                                                          understand
                                                          that this is
                                                          not a proposal
                                                          for yet<br>
                                                          another Icann
                                                          meeting, or a
                                                          reedition of
                                                          the UN
                                                          chatting space
                                                          called IGF,<br>
                                                          as both Dilma
                                                          and Fadi made
                                                          it very clear.
                                                          It is a major
                                                          achievement
                                                          that<br>
                                                          that
                                                          motivation
                                                          brought Icann
                                                          to colead this
                                                          effort jointly
                                                          with BR.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          All the more
                                                          so because, as
                                                          you know,
                                                          there are
                                                          strong sectors
                                                          within the<br>
                                                          government who
                                                          would love to
                                                          bring the
                                                          root-zone to
                                                          the purview of
                                                          the ITU,<br>
                                                          who hate
                                                          Icann, who do
                                                          not like the
                                                          pluriparticipative
                                                          model of
                                                          governance<br>
                                                          we defend, and
                                                          who are
                                                          basically
                                                          associated
                                                          with the
                                                          transnational
                                                          telecom<br>
                                                          oligopoly
                                                          which controls
                                                          the main
                                                          networks in
                                                          BR.<br>
                                                          Dilma is
                                                          courageously
                                                          up against a
                                                          huge wall
                                                          here, to
                                                          defend those<br>
                                                          principles,
                                                          and receiving
                                                          Fadi and
                                                          emerging from
                                                          the meeting
                                                          with thar<br>
                                                          proposal was a
                                                          major
                                                          political
                                                          milestone for
                                                          her in those
                                                          internal
                                                          disputes<br>
                                                          as well.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          [] fraterno<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          --c.a.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On 10/10/2013
                                                          10:14 AM,
                                                          McTim wrote:<br>
                                                          > At 55
                                                          seconds in,
                                                          Fadi says:<br>
                                                          > "Her
                                                          Excellency
                                                          President
                                                          Rousseff has
                                                          accepted our
                                                          invitation
                                                          that we<br>
                                                          > hold next
                                                          year a Global
                                                          Summit"<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > Seem
                                                          fairly clear
                                                          to me.<br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          > On Thu,
                                                          Oct 10, 2013
                                                          at 9:10 AM,
                                                          Carlos A.
                                                          Afonso <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>>

                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          >> McT,
                                                          maybe you
                                                          should watch
                                                          the video a
                                                          few times
                                                          more... :)<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >>
                                                          --c.a.<br>
                                                          >><br>
                                                          >> On
                                                          10/10/2013
                                                          09:57 AM,
                                                          McTim wrote:<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          On Wed, Oct 9,
                                                          2013 at 11:50
                                                          PM, michael
                                                          gurstein <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>><br>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          Why so
                                                          pessimistic
                                                          and cynical
                                                          everyone.. I
                                                          may be wrong
                                                          but this<br>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          isn't just
                                                          about ICANN,
                                                          although hats
                                                          off to Fadi
                                                          for getting
                                                          this<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          going and
                                                          putting that
                                                          into play.<br>
                                                          <div>>>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          I'm not
                                                          pessimistic or
                                                          cynical.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          But I would be
                                                          extremely
                                                          surprised if
                                                          the Pres. of
                                                          Brazil is
                                                          going<br>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          to invite the
                                                          world to Rio
                                                          in April next
                                                          year to
                                                          discuss names
                                                          and<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          numbers.
                                                          Rather my
                                                          reading is
                                                          that she is
                                                          by-passing the
                                                          quite<br>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          evident
                                                          log-jam at the
                                                          ITU, the
                                                          frivolities of
                                                          the IGF, the
                                                          now<br>
                                                          >>>>

                                                          discredited
                                                          "Internet
                                                          Freedom"
                                                          crusade and
                                                          the status quo
                                                          which it<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          >>>>
                                                          was intended
                                                          to cast into
                                                          concrete errr.
                                                          (non) rules
                                                          and regs.<br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>>>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          It appears to
                                                          me, after
                                                          watching the
                                                          video again
                                                          several times
                                                          that<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          it is ICANN
                                                          (and I assume
                                                          the rest of
                                                          the
                                                          Montevideoans)
                                                          that are<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          spearheading
                                                          this.  In
                                                          other words
                                                          the idea of
                                                          the Summit
                                                          comes from<br>
                                                          >>>
                                                          the T&A
                                                          folks, not
                                                          Brasilia.<br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          >>><br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          ><br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                      <div>-- <br>
                                                        -- <br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Joana Varon
                                                        Ferraz<br>
                                                        @joana_varon<br>
                                                        PGP 0x016B8E73<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <br>
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                                  <div
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                                      face="garamond, serif">Senior
                                      Policy Analyst</font></div>
                                  <div
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                                      face="garamond, serif">Access | <a
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                                        target="_blank">accessnow.org</a></font></div>
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                                      face="garamond, serif"><a
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                                      0x5EB4727D</font></div>
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