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<div>On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:43 AM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 08 October 2013 07:24 PM, John Curran wrote:<br>
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<div>The clear, uniform call by these organizations for globalization of ICANN and IANA </div>
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<div>a would call a truly substantial development. </div>
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Can you please point to where such a proposal/ call exists... </div>
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<div>Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation, 3rd bullet - </div>
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<div>"They called for accelerating the globalization of ICANN and IANA functions,</div>
<div> towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all governments, </div>
<div> participate on an equal footing."</div>
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<div>It is a _call_, not a _proposal_</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Is there agreement on making ICANN an international organisation incorporated under international law and not US law, and free from all kinds of US jurisdiction, and in a host country agreement with the US government and
so on.... That is what globalisation or internationalisation means..... I happy to support any such proposal from the technical community, and this can be basis of some real change.
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<div>Again, it is a call for globalization of ICANN and IANA functions, not a plan for </div>
<div>doing such... I do believe that we're all using the term globalization to mean </div>
<div>"free from one specific country's jurisdiction/governance".</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Opening a new office in Africa or China or India is not globalisation - even US has embassies in all these place, because of which US cannot be called as having been globalised or internationalised.
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Agreed.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">We have always been very forthcoming to present what we think it would look like (although always open to further comments and changes). For instance, see this recent statement to the WGEC by 46 organisations including
ours, <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/Statement_on_democratizing_Internet_governance_0.pdf">
http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/Statement_on_democratizing_Internet_governance_0.pdf</a> . Happy to hear your comments on this.
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Is the new "Internet Technical Oversight and Advisory Board" a component of </div>
<div>the 'new UN body', or an distinct entity? <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">'IANA oversight' function that is nominally provided today by the USG/NTIA?</blockquote>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">See the above link...... Set up an international body that takes over this function with no accountability to the US, or any kind of US jurisdiction... Simple. What other way is there to globalise/ internationalise something
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<div>There are many different possible structures and mechanisms, for example,</div>
<div>you propose a new UN body, an Oversight Board, globalization of ICANN,</div>
<div>and maintenance/strengthening of the existing IGF. I can easily imagine </div>
<div>other methods of solving this problem with different arrangements of bodies</div>
<div>and mechanisms.</div>
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<div>The Montevideo Statement on the Future of Internet Cooperation does not</div>
<div>propose any particular solution, but only states that several organizations </div>
<div>which are involved in Internet coordination believe that the globalization of </div>
<div>ICANN and IANA functions (towards an environment in which all stakeholders, </div>
<div>including all governments, participate on an equal footing) is a goal worth </div>
<div>accelerating.</div>
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<div>Given your strong expression of concern over the statement, I guess the </div>
<div>question arises - would you have preferred a statement which indicated that</div>
<div>the current USG oversight of ICANN and IANA is just fine? That certainly</div>
<div>would have supported the status quo...</div>
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<div>/John</div>
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