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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 08 October 2013 12:13 PM,
parminder wrote:<br>
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<font face="Verdana">Dear Ian<br>
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*<b>Most importantly</b>*, if indeed they really seek any "truly
substantial" change/evolution of current mechanisms why did they
not say so in their recent response to the questionnaire of the
Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation, which inter alia asks
them this precise question. In fact the question on the needed
"most appropriate mechanisms" has a specific sub question on
technical management aspect of global IG. At least three of the
signatories to the Montevedio statement send their responses to
the questionnaire - ICANN, ARIN and LACNIC. </font></blockquote>
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<font face="Verdana">In fact four of them. I forgot to mention ISOC.<br>
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face="Verdana">There is no indication at all in their responses
to the questionnaire that they seek any "truly substantial"
evolution anywhere. Everything of the status quo appears to them
pretty all right.<br>
<br>
In the circumstances, would one be amiss is considering this
Montevideo statement as largely being merely for public
consumption, while the views of the same organisations at places
where such views really matter are rather different. <br>
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BTW, responses to WGEC questionaire can be seen at <a
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href="http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=396">http://unctad.org/en/pages/MeetingDetails.aspx?meetingid=396</a>
. Incidentally, IT for Change's responses are missing from the
compilation. So also I think APC's, and therefore there may be
even some more missing here. <br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 08 October 2013 11:21 AM,
Ian Peter wrote:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:ADFFFCEC32124534A768BC140520C9AA@Toshiba"
type="cite">Its interesting to contrast this article with the
Montevideo statement released a little bit later from the
technical community. As regards criticisms of current internet
governance structures, the technical community added <br>
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" The leaders discussed the clear need to continually strengthen
and evolve these mechanisms, in truly substantial ways, to be
able to address emerging issues faced by stakeholders in the
Internet." <br>
<br>
Note "in truly substantial ways" - that's not accidental text,
but a recognition that significant change must take place. <br>
<br>
Also note the main statements from Montevideo, which were <br>
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<br>
* They reinforced the importance of globally coherent Internet
operations, and warned against Internet fragmentation at a
national level. They expressed strong concern over the
undermining of the trust and confidence of Internet users
globally due to recent revelations of pervasive monitoring and
surveillance. <br>
<br>
*They identified the need for ongoing effort to address Internet
Governance challenges, and agreed to catalyze community-wide
efforts towards the evolution of global multistakeholder
Internet cooperation. <br>
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*They called for accelerating the globalization of ICANN and
IANA functions, towards an environment in which all
stakeholders, including all governments, participate on an equal
footing. <br>
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(there was also a statement re IPv6) <br>
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I mention these in this context because there appears to be a
lot of common ground with the technical community now as regards
some of the big priorities that must be addressed, and from this
statement also a recognition that they must improve current
mechanisms "in truly substantial ways". <br>
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That's good news! There are things that should be criticised in
current structures, but there is a growing opportunity to work
with the technical community to address some major points of
agreement. I hope that in our discussions of the various
viewpoints which legitimately are part of our thinking on
current structures we do not lose the opportunity to work
closely with the technical community on some over riding policy
issues on which we have substantial agreement. <br>
<br>
<br>
Ian Peter <br>
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-----Original Message----- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <br>
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Subject: [governance] "technical community fails at
multistakeholderism". really? <br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://igfwatch.org/discussion-board/how-the-technical-community-fails-at-multi-stakeholderism">http://igfwatch.org/discussion-board/how-the-technical-community-fails-at-multi-stakeholderism</a>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.digitalnewsasia.com/insights/web-consortiums-failures-show-limits-of-self-regulation">http://www.digitalnewsasia.com/insights/web-consortiums-failures-show-limits-of-self-regulation</a>
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forming a consensus that the usual splinter rump minority doesnt
agree with emphatically does not constitute any sort of failure
of multistakeholderism <br>
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--srs <br>
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