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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 08 October 2013 07:24 PM,
John Curran wrote:<br>
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<div>The clear, uniform call by these organizations
for globalization of ICANN and IANA </div>
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<div>a would call a truly substantial development. </div>
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Can you please point to where such a proposal/ call exists... Is
there agreement on making ICANN an international organisation
incorporated under international law and not US law, and free from
all kinds of US jurisdiction, and in a host country agreement with
the US government and so on.... That is what globalisation or
internationalisation means..... I happy to support any such proposal
from the technical community, and this can be basis of some real
change. <br>
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Opening a new office in Africa or China or India is not
globalisation - even US has embassies in all these place, because of
which US cannot be called as having been globalised or
internationalised. <br>
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<div> Regarding that "environment", I was </div>
<div>hoping you'd tell me... what would you like to look like? <br>
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We have always been very forthcoming to present what we think it
would look like (although always open to further comments and
changes). For instance, see this recent statement to the WGEC by 46
organisations including ours,
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/Statement_on_democratizing_Internet_governance_0.pdf">http://www.itforchange.net/sites/default/files/ITfC/Statement_on_democratizing_Internet_governance_0.pdf</a>
. Happy to hear your comments on this. <br>
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<div>For example, there is an "IANA Function Contract"... how
would one globalize the </div>
<div>'IANA oversight' function that is nominally provided today by
the USG/NTIA?</div>
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See the above link...... Set up an international body that takes
over this function with no accountability to the US, or any kind of
US jurisdiction... Simple. What other way is there to globalise/
internationalise something ?<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">The plain fact is that
in a socio political space no change takes place if we wait
for every every entity to agree completely. So we can wait
eternally for the full consensus to emerge and the status
quo can meanwhile be. Public interest actors can still agree
- as they do often in terms of global treaties etc - because
of some genuine give and take involved, and at other times a
leap of collective faith in global public interest....But
when some private interest actors - who by definition look
at narrow, relatively short term interest - are also
prominently lined up as essential parties to the sought for
consensus, that is a pretty impossible task. A good recipe
however to keep the status quo going. </div>
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There's no reason for the organizations involved to issue a
statement if they desired</div>
<div>maintenance of the status quo, and furthermore would
definitely not call for globalization</div>
<div>of the ICANN and IANA functions, since that aspect alone is
likely to precipitate some</div>
<div>significant change...</div>
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<div>FYI,</div>
<div>/John</div>
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<div>John Curran</div>
<div>President and CEO</div>
<div>ARIN</div>
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