<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Oct 7, 2013, at 11:43 PM, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana">You say that the part "in truly substantial ways" makes the
statement as really serious.... I would take it to be that -
really serious - if they had but mentioned one clear instance of
what would be such a "truly substantial way".</font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You would not consider the "accelerating the globalization of ICANN and IANA functions, </div><div>towards an environment in which all stakeholders, including all governments, participate </div><div>on an equal footing" to be truly substantial?</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><font face="Verdana"> Even if it was
perhaps not possible for all the current signatories to sign off
on any "real proposal" right away, can anyone here who comes close
to being one among many representatives of the technical community
propose an example of any such "truly substantial" change that
technical community is now willing to consider, post NSA/ Snowden.<br></font></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>How can there be a proposal of "what should be next" without first having discussions </div><div>of same? Your faith in "a real proposal" from the Montevideo signatories is appreciated,</div><div>but discussions so that "all stakeholders, including all governments, participate on an </div><div>equal footing" is exactly the type of discussion going on globally in places such as the </div><div>IGF, and there is no clear or even emergent consensus yet that I can discern...</div><div><br></div><div>/John</div><div><br></div><div>Disclaimer: My views alone. No new Internet Governance structures are created via</div><div> this email.</div></div></body></html>