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<p>As the contract in question explicitly states US court, the teen
certainly has standing or her parents do if she is a minor. The logistics
of actually suing the company in California are another story </p>
<p>--srs (htc one x)<br>
</p>
<p>On 4 October 2013 7:03:21 AM "michael gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com>
wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is
that true?  And supposing company X says no, sue me…? Would the teen in BF
be able to obtain standing re: this in a US court?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div
style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suresh
Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
October 03, 2013 6:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org;
michael gurstein; 'parminder';
bestbits@lists.bestbits.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] RE:
[bestbits] Californian law putting some restrictions on Internet
ads<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>If a service
claims to be under the jurisdiction of the courts in California, and
Californian law orders the service to provide a data scrubbing mechanism to
its users.. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't
see why it matters if a Burkina Faso teen wants to scrub his information,
it still does get scrubbed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>--srs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br>-------- Original message
--------<br>From: michael gurstein <<a
href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> <br>Date:
10/04/2013 6:54 AM (GMT+05:30) <br>To: 'parminder' <<a
href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>,governance@lists.igcaucus.org,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net
<br>Subject: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Californian law putting some
restrictions on Internet ads <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I
guess a question to ask is what is the overall The
"governance"/policy framework which would allow a teenager in
Burkina Faso to have content removed about
themselves?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In
some ways that should be the/an objective of our
deliberations…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div
style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
0in'><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>
[<a
href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>parminder<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 23, 2013
10:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a
href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
&lt,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net&gt,<br><b>Subject:</b> [bestbits]
Californian law putting some restrictions on Internet
ads</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal
style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>See<br><br><a
href="http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB568">http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB568</a><br><br>It
is about putting restrictions on some kinds of ads on Internet services,
applications etc that aimed at minors. It also allows minors to remove
content about themselves. <br><br>Whatever agreement or disagreement people
may have with this particular law, one important issue here is that
California can make such law, but not states in other countries, not even
national governments. I mean it is so so difficult for them to enforce it,
that it may not be worth attempting it. At other places, big companies may
simply blackmail them by threats of withdrawal as Google did with
governemnt of Taipei a few years back. (which they wont do with Gov of
California).... This is how policy space for non US gov entities is
shrinking fast, and what it means is that political and democratic space of
our world is shrinking... A key global IG issue if there ever was
one.<br><br>parminder </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote>
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