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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Is that true? And supposing company X says no, sue me…? Would the teen in BF be able to obtain standing re: this in a US court?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:suresh@hserus.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:30 PM<br><b>To:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein; 'parminder'; bestbits@lists.bestbits.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Californian law putting some restrictions on Internet ads<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>If a service claims to be under the jurisdiction of the courts in California, and Californian law orders the service to provide a data scrubbing mechanism to its users.. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don't see why it matters if a Burkina Faso teen wants to scrub his information, it still does get scrubbed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>--srs<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> <br>Date: 10/04/2013 6:54 AM (GMT+05:30) <br>To: 'parminder' <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>,governance@lists.igcaucus.org,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net <br>Subject: [governance] RE: [bestbits] Californian law putting some restrictions on Internet ads <br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess a question to ask is what is the overall The "governance"/policy framework which would allow a teenager in Burkina Faso to have content removed about themselves?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In some ways that should be the/an objective of our deliberations…</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a> [<a href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>parminder<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 23, 2013 10:08 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; <,bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>,<br><b>Subject:</b> [bestbits] Californian law putting some restrictions on Internet ads</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>See<br><br><a href="http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB568">http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201320140SB568</a><br><br>It is about putting restrictions on some kinds of ads on Internet services, applications etc that aimed at minors. It also allows minors to remove content about themselves. <br><br>Whatever agreement or disagreement people may have with this particular law, one important issue here is that California can make such law, but not states in other countries, not even national governments. I mean it is so so difficult for them to enforce it, that it may not be worth attempting it. At other places, big companies may simply blackmail them by threats of withdrawal as Google did with governemnt of Taipei a few years back. (which they wont do with Gov of California).... This is how policy space for non US gov entities is shrinking fast, and what it means is that political and democratic space of our world is shrinking... A key global IG issue if there ever was one.<br><br>parminder </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>