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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 26 September 2013 03:52 PM,
      Joana Varon wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi Louis and Parminder, <br>
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              Until now you were the only ones that didnt agree fully
              with the texto, due to paragraph 4. From what I've got:<br>
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            - Parminder has a stronger take that THE Brazilian model
            should be extended to the world. <br>
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    I am in fact in full agreement to 'The Brazilian model should be
    extended more widely' ..... I just dont agree with your description
    as being the existing Brazilian model :) . It sepaks about one part
    of it but not the other. <br>
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    I am even happy to say<br>
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    "Brazilian multistakeholder model of Internet governance should be
    extended more widely, including to the global level."<br>
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          - Louis said that we should remove that mention on the text. <br>
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          Before we start drafting the text, the issue about of
          multilateral vs multistakeholderism was raised and we came to
          a conclusion that though its not the time to criticize this
          specific point of Dilma's speech, we should reinforce our
          support for developing models for a multistakeholder approach
          on IG, also having CGI experiences as a inspiration. <br>
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        <div>Having in mind that for a broader endorsement we need to
          reach this middle ground, would you be fine with the actual
          version or want to submit changes in the language that don't
          affect this (middle ground) meaning? Thanks a lot for the
          understanding. <br>
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    Please see the above formulation. But if you insist that CGI
    experience (which model I like a lot) should be mentioned as an
    inspiration, I am unable to understand why should then the Marco
    Civil experience also be mentioned, the two together kind of
    completing the Brazilian model. <br>
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    so maybe we can say;<br>
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    ""Reinforce our support for the Brazilian multistakeholder approach
    to Internet governance, which model should be extended more widely,
    including to the global level. In this regard CGI and Marco Civil
    process should serve as an inspiration".<br>
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    This formulation just adds Marco Civil process as a part of
    Brazilian IG system to your earlier formulation which I understand
    is only a fact. It takes nothing away from it. <br>
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          best<br>
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          joana<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Louis
          Pouzin (well) <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div>IMHO it would be better without parag 4.<br>
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                Cheers, Louis<br>
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              btw, for those not living there, local brazilian time is
              UTC-3<br>
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                    On 26 September 2013 7:14:17 AM Joana Varon wrote:
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                                <div>Dear all, <br>
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                                  Please, find a reduced version below.
                                  We are closing the pad now to avoid
                                  more crazy joined editing processes.
                                  Thanks for all the contributions.<br>
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                                Let's receive final
                                comments about very punctual changes or
                                major disagreements and gaps until
                                tomorrow (Thursday) 9:00 am (Brazilian
                                time). Then collect endorsements
                                through out the day. <br>
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                                <b>Deadline for signatures will be this
                                  Thursday night, let's say
                                  22:00, also Brazilian time</b>. So
                                Carlos can deliver it in hand to
                                President Dilma. <b><br>
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                                <div>thanks once
                                  again,<br>
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                                <div>joana<br>
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                                  <div><span><b>Letter from</b></span><span><b>
                                        International
                                        C</b></span><span><b>ivil
                                        Society</b></span><span><b>
                                        Organizations</b></span><span><b>
                                      </b></span><span><b>to
                                        President Dilma Rousseff in
                                        support of her </b></span><span><b>statement
                                        at </b></span><span><b>the 68th
                                        Session of
                                        the </b></span><span><b>UNGA </b></span></div>
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                                  <div><span>Your Excellency,</span></div>
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                                    <span>We, the undersigned
                                      organizations and individuals from
                                      around the world</span><span>,
                                      committed to the development of
                                      the
                                      Internet</span><span> and its use
                                      for advancing social
                                    </span><span>and economic </span><span>justice</span><span>,
                                      would like to express our strong
                                      support </span><span>f</span><span>o</span><span>r</span><span>
                                      the statement delivered this week
                                      by your
                                    </span><span>E</span><span>xcellency
                                    </span><span>at the 68th Session of</span><span>
                                      the United Nations
                                      General Assembly. </span><span>We
                                      commend you for </span><span>taking
                                      a leading role</span><span> on
                                      these
                                      issues</span><span> and would like
                                      to:</span></div>
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                                  <div><span>1. Fully endorse the five
                                      principles
                                      enunciated on the occasion, in
                                      clear accordance with the </span><span>
                                      Brazilian Internet Steering
                                      Committee</span><span></span><span><i>'</i></span><span>s</span><span><i>
                                      </i></span><span>Principles
                                      for the Governance and Use of </span><span>the
                                    </span><span>Internet.</span></div>
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                                  <div><span>2. Stress the importance of
                                      the timely adoption of the
                                      Brazilian Draft Bill of Internet
                                      Rights (Marco Civil da Internet)
                                      in a way that upholds these
                                      principles.</span></div>
                                  <div><span> </span></div>
                                  <div><span>3. Commend the courage of
                                      Brazil in expressing disapproval
                                      and demanding explanations from
                                      the USA about the procedures of
                                      illegal interception of 
                                      information and data, framing it
                                      as a grave violation of human
                                      rights and of civil liberties</span></div>
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                                  <div><span>4.</span><span><i> </i></span><span>R</span><span>einforce
                                      our support </span><span>for an
                                      extension into broader spheres of
                                      Internet Governance of
                                    </span><span>the</span><span>
                                      experiences from
                                      the</span><span> Brazilian
                                      multistakeholder model </span><span>of
                                    </span><span>Internet governance</span><span>,</span><span>
                                    </span><span>led</span><span> by
                                      CGI.br, which comprises
                                      representatives from
                                      Government</span><span>, </span><span>Scientific
                                      and
                                      Technolog</span><span>y</span><span>
                                      Community,</span><span> </span><span>p</span><span>rivate
                                    </span><span>s</span><span>ector</span><span>
                                      and Civil Society on </span><span>an
                                    </span><span>equal footing</span><span>.</span></div>
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                                  <div><span>We </span><span>express
                                    </span><span>our deep appreciation
                                      for your serious commitment to
                                      social justice and development, of
                                      which an open, stable, and
                                      reliable Internet is a fundamental
                                      pillar.</span></div>
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                                  <div><span>Signatories:</span></div>
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        Joana Varon Ferraz<br>
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