<div dir="ltr"><div>Would it perhaps be possible then to ask her as part of the statement to clarify her stance on the global model which she preposes, in particular with regard to the involvement of stakeholders other than the government? By linking this up with her obvious support of the Brazilian domestic model, this could perhaps be done in a way that asks the question without undoing any of the fabulousness of her speech. <br>
<br>As I noted on another list, my aim is not to dismiss Dilma's intervention, but to ensure that we do
not come up with a statement that puts many of us in a very difficult
position vis-a-vis our own governments inthe ongoing negotiations on the
best model of global Internet governance. This is especially true in
contexts such as India where multistakeholderism, though making
progress, is far from as established as it is in Brazil and in fact
continues to be extremely fragile. <br><br></div>Thanks and best,<br>Anja<br><div>
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 September 2013 21:47, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I would not like to take on this task since I am deeply involved here<br>
and might introduce bias which would delay approval by our flock -- this<br>
needs to be from the international civil society community.<br>
<br>
It would be *extremely important* to have it ready by tomorrow late<br>
night (it can be very late in the night -- I am not really sleeping<br>
these days) Brazilian time so I can print it and try and deliver it to<br>
the Presidenta's hands (or her closest advisors).<br>
<br>
fraternal regards<br>
<br>
--c.a.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 09/25/2013 11:52 AM, Diego Rafael Canabarro wrote:<br>
> I believe that Carolina (Rossini), Joana (Varon) and Marilia Maciel<br>
> could (should) be part of the task-force. : )<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian<br>
</div><div class="im">> <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Carlos and Diego could take the lead on this one, with other<br>
> brazilian colleagues more directly involved in Marco civil than we are<br>
><br>
> I am happy to sign on to a suitable statement<br>
><br>
> --srs (htc one x)<br>
><br>
</div><div class="im">> On 25 September 2013 7:50:34 PM parminder __ wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> If such is the range of support, lets write a statement supporting<br>
>> Dilma's very important speech, and commend her/ Brazil on it (as<br>
>> also suggested on another list)<br>
>><br>
>> parminder<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Wednesday 25 September 2013 06:05 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:<br>
>>> In which case she has delivered a ringing endorsement of<br>
>>> values near and dear to civil society.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --srs (iPad)<br>
>>><br>
</div><div><div class="h5">>>>> On 24-Sep-2013, at 22:22, "Carlos A. Afonso" <<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca">ca@cafonso.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Yes, I was one of the ones who talked to her just before she travelled<br>
>>>> to the Evil Empire. This is the meaning.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The best part was her firm and clear defense of net neutrality (not even<br>
>>>> aunt Neelie dares so much). A tremendous cold shower on the<br>
>>>> transnational telco cartel in Brazil, and a renewed hope Marco Civil<br>
>>>> could be approved as we dream it should.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> fraternal regards<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --c.a.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> On 09/24/2013 01:33 PM, Jean Paul NKURUNZIZA wrote:<br>
>>>>> Dear Raphael,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> You are right.<br>
>>>>> I was asking myself if she didn't use "Multilateral" by error. Did she want<br>
>>>>> to talk "Multistakeholder".<br>
>>>>> If I consider this paragraph for instance :<br>
>>>>> "2 - Open, multilateral and democratic governance, carried out with transparency by stimulating<br>
>>>>> collective creativity and the participation of society, Governments and the<br>
>>>>> private sector."<br>
>>>>> If the word "Society"is meant to mean "Civil Society", then I suppose she<br>
>>>>> wanted to mean "Multistakeholder"<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Regards<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> NKURUNZIZA Jean Paul<br>
>>>>> TRAINER IN COMPUTING AND INTERNET POLICY<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ISOC BURUNDI : VICE PRESIDENT<br>
>>>>> Réseau des Télécentres Communautaires du Burundi : Président<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Burundi Youth Training Centre : Secrétaire Général<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Skype : jpnkurunziz<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Facebook : <a href="http://www.facebook.com/jeanpaul.nkurunziza" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/jeanpaul.nkurunziza</a><br>
</div></div>>>>>> Tel : +257 79 981459 <tel:%2B257%2079%20981459><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ________________________________<br>
>>>>> De : Diego Rafael Canabarro <<a href="mailto:diegocanabarro@gmail.com">diegocanabarro@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:diegocanabarro@gmail.com">diegocanabarro@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>> À : "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <mailto:<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>><br>
>>>>> <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>;<br>
>>>>> Carolina Rossini <<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:carolina.rossini@gmail.com">carolina.rossini@gmail.com</a>><br>
<div class="im">>>>>><br>
>>>>> Envoyé le : Mardi 24 septembre 2013 18h17<br>
>>>>> Objet : Re: [governance] Dilma Rousseff's speech at UN<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Three mentions to "multilateral".<br>
>>>>> No mention to "multistakeholder".<br>
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