<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body ><div>Yes and because of competition and disclosure NIST is initiating a process now that they wouldn't have done during the cold war</div><div><br></div><div>So, do participate </div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:100%">--srs</div></div><br><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Carlos Vera Quintana <cveraq@gmail.com> <br>Date: 09/15/2013  8:45 PM  (GMT+05:30) <br>To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh@hserus.net> <br>Cc: governance@lists.igcaucus.org,"Louis Pouzin (well)" <pouzin@well.com>,parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> <br>Subject: Re: [governance] NSA sabotage of Internet security standards <br> <br><br><div>Only because of competition (France, Israel, open source) USA allows use of IE with strong encryption.</div><div><br></div><div>So if you have choices, then you have ways to fight <br><br>Carlos Vera Quintana<div>0988141143</div><div>Sígueme @cveraq</div></div><div><br>El 15/09/2013, a las 9:58, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Yes and in 2000 a lot of us were using 56k dialup modems too. </div><div><br></div><div>It would be good to focus on this specific process.<br><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 15-Sep-2013, at 19:47, Carlos Vera Quintana <<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Remember: until 2000 in the Clinton's administration IE with 128 bits encryption was under export control (25 years in jail) and only for American citizens  <br><br>Carlos Vera Quintana<div>0988141143</div><div>Sígueme @cveraq</div></div><div><br>El 15/09/2013, a las 9:03, "Louis Pouzin (well)" <<a href="mailto:pouzin@well.com">pouzin@well.com</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Participate. <a href="http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/government-announces-steps-to-restore-confidence-on-encryption-standards/?_r=0" target="_blank">http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/10/government-announces-steps-to-restore-confidence-on-encryption-standards/?_r=0</a><br>

<br>--srs (iPad)</div></div></blockquote><div><br>> government-announces-steps-to-restore-confidence-on-encryption-standards<br> <br></div><div>Best quote of the day, so cutely childish.<br></div><div>The trend is no secret: user open source encryption and States standards.<br>

</div><div><br></div><div>Louis<br><br></div></div></div></div>
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