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    <font face="Verdana">The mandate of the review group </font><font
      face="Verdana">itself </font><font face="Verdana">is flawed.....<br>
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      "</font><font face="Verdana">The Review Group is seeking public
      comments on all matters that the President has directed it to
      examine, namely, how in light of advancements in communications
      technologies, the United States can employ its technical
      collection capabilities in a manner that optimally protects our
      national security and advances our foreign policy.............".<br>
      <br>
      No international law allows breach of privacy just to advance
      foreign policy..... National security is a different matter. <br>
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      parminder<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 06 September 2013 09:06 AM,
      Lee W McKnight wrote:<br>
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        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">FYI.<br>
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        It might be interesting to attempt to formulate an igc rough
        consensus submission to
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            _sa="governance@lists.igcaucus.org"
            _dn="governance@lists.igcaucus.org" contenteditable="false"></span></span><a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Reviewgroup@dni.gov"
          target="_blank">reviewgroup@dni.gov</a> before the 10.4
        deadline.<br>
        <br>
        Nah, what was I thinking : )<br>
        <br>
        Lee<br>
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        <div id="divRplyFwdMsg"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma"
            size="2"><b>From:</b> David Farber [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dave@farber.net">dave@farber.net</a>]<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 05, 2013 8:14 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> ip<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [IP] WH Review Group on Global Signals
            Intelligence Collection and Communications Technologies
            Seeks Public Comment<br>
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          <div><br>
            <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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              <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium"><b>From:
                </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
                font-size:medium">Mike Liebhold <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mnl@well.com"
                  target="_blank">mnl@well.com</a>><br>
              </span></div>
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              <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium"><b>Subject:
                </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
                font-size:medium"><b>WH Review Group on Global Signals
                  Intelligence Collection and Communications
                  Technologies Seeks Public Comment</b><br>
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              <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium"><b>Date:
                </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
                font-size:medium">September 5, 2013 7:39:48 PM EDT<br>
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              <span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium"><b>To:
                </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica';
                font-size:medium">Dave Farber <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:dave@farber.net"
                  target="_blank">dave@farber.net</a>><br>
              </span></div>
            <br>
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">For IP if you wish:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://icontherecord.tumblr.com/post/60323228143/review-group-on-global-signals-intelligence"
                target="_blank">http://icontherecord.tumblr.com/post/60323228143/review-group-on-global-signals-intelligence</a><br>
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              Office of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI)<br>
              <strong>Review Group on Global Signals Intelligence
                Collection and Communications Technologies Seeks Public
                Comment
              </strong><br>
              <br>
              <p><strong>September 4, 2013</strong></p>
              <p>On August 12, 2013 President Obama <a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/12/presidential-memorandum-reviewing-our-global-signals-intelligence-collec"
                  title="Presidential Memorandum -- Reviewing Our Global
                  Signals Intelligence Collection and Communications
                  Technologies" target="_blank">directed the
                  establishment</a> of the Review Group on Intelligence
                and Communications Technologies.  While the Review Group
                is administratively housed at the Office of the Director
                of National Intelligence (DNI), it is conducting an
                independent review and will report to the President
                through the DNI.</p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>President Obama <a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/08/27/statement-press-secretary-review-group-intelligence-and-communications-t"
                    title="Statement by the Press Secretary on the
                    Review Group on Intelligence and Communications
                    Technology" target="_blank">met with the members of
                    the Review Group</a> on August 27, Richard Clarke,
                  Michael Morell, Geoffrey Stone, Cass Sunstein and
                  Peter Swire. The President thanked the Members of the
                  Group for taking on this important task and looks
                  forward to hearing from them as their work proceeds.</span></p>
              <p><strong>Seeking Public Comment</strong></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">The Review Group is seeking public
                comments on all matters that the President has directed
                it to examine, namely, how in light of advancements in
                communications technologies, the United States can
                employ its technical collection capabilities in a manner
                that optimally protects our national security and
                advances our foreign policy while respecting our
                commitment to privacy and civil liberties, recognizing
                our need to maintain the public trust, and reducing the
                risk of unauthorized disclosure. Comments can be
                provided via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:Reviewgroup@dni.gov" target="_blank">reviewgroup@dni.gov</a>.
                The deadline for public submissions is <span class="aBn">October
                  4, 2013</span>. </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><span>The comments you provide to the
                  Review Group will be used to inform the group’s
                  deliberations.</span><span> </span></p>
              <p><strong>Review Group Privacy and Comment Policy</strong></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><em>Your comments will become part of
                  the official record of the Review Group’s activity and
                  will be retained consistent with applicable policy and
                  legal requirements. At this time, the Review Group is
                  receiving comments only, and will not be responding to
                  submitters.  However, the Review Group may determine
                  it appropriate to the public debate to post your
                  comments publicly. Accordingly, any personal
                  information you provide in the comments, or in an
                  address or signature block, may be disclosed. 
                  Providing a comment is voluntary, and implies your
                  consent to publication of the comment and any personal
                  information contained in it.</em></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"><em>Should the Review Group post
                  comments, it will review all comments prior to posting
                  and will not post comments that contain vulgar or
                  abusive language; personal attacks of any kind;
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                  comments that are clearly “off topic”;  commercial
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                  political party, person campaigning for elected
                  office, or any ballot proposition; reports of criminal
                  or suspicious activity - if you have information for
                  law enforcement, please contact your local police
                  agency; unsolicited proposals, or other business ideas
                  or inquiries; solicitations for contracting or
                  commercial business; or any claims, demands, informal
                  or formal complaints, or any other form of legal
                  and/or administrative notices or processes.</em></p>
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