<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Yes but intent is another thing entirely.  Getting inspired by The Pirate Bay surely shows a sterling commitment to the idea of free warez, free movies and music etc but beyond that?<br><br>And policy recommendations / best practices / standards are entirely different from political campaigns of any sort.</div><div><br>--srs (iPad)</div><div><br>On 06-Sep-2013, at 10:25, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 06 September 2013 09:58 AM,
      parminder wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 06 September 2013 09:04 AM,
        Jeremy Malcolm wrote:<br>
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        <div>In the Australian election week, I noticed in the Pirate's
          Party manifesto at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://getawarrant.org.au/:">http://getawarrant.org.au/:</a></div>
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        <div>"The Pirate Party will push for negotiations to begin on an
          international treaty for a free and open Internet.<br>
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          In 2012, the United Nations passed a landmark resolution that
          declared the Internet to be a fundamental human right. The
          same rights that people take for granted offline must be also
          enshrined online. An international treaty can guarantee this
          now and for future generations."</div>
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        <div>Naïve, or ahead of the curve?</div>
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      Well, ahead of curve only if we want to wait till the architecture
      of the global Internet, and social processes building on it, is
      firmly set and too late to be changed. And this will be soon.
      Remembe the adage 'architecture is policy' and so a policy coming
      too later after the architecture is rather useless. <br>
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      I really dont understand why and how people say things like it is
      too early to begin talking of international arrangements - also
      knowing that even once you begin talking about them in a positive
      manner it may take years for them to get off the ground.... In
      fact it is already getting late. Around WSIS, the Internet
      pioneers and evangelists still held some high ground and people
      were ready to develop global frameworks based on such ideals -
      give or take some. As more and more malignant interests have
      discovered how to control the Internet and make it deliver for
      them, the chances of such agreements in fact recede. In the
      circumstances, what really is the case for holding that to begin
      talking abut such agreements may be ahead of time, far worse, it
      being naive? <br>
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      Meanwhile, of course OECD is going ahead full steam to make global
      Internet policy and policy frameworks.... I think we need to get
      real, sooner the better. I mean if we are really thinking global
      democracy and global public interest, <br>
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    See <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.oecd.org/sti/security-privacy">http://www.oecd.org/sti/security-privacy</a> ,for instance, for new
    privacy guidelines from the OECD . A few quotes from the website....<br>
    , <br>
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      <p>"Security and privacy are essential for the Internet economy to
        continue to serve as a platform for innovation, new sources of
        economic growth and social development. The OECD focuses on the
        development of better policies to ensure that security and
        privacy foster economic and social prosperity in an open an
        interconnected digital world."</p>
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      <p>"This work is carried out by the <a href="http://www.oecd.org/sti/ieconomy/whatistheoecdworkingpartyoninformationsecurityandprivacywpisp.htm">OECD
          Working Party on Information Security and Privacy (WPISP)</a>,
        under the Committee for Information, Computers and
        Communications Policy (ICCP)."<br>
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    Sure, naive and ahead of the curve for the not so rich world to
    aspire to democratic participation in what affects them so
    centrally!<br>
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    parminder <br>
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