<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Dear Sana, and all,</div><div><br></div><div>You are absolutely right, the sustainable approach is education, awareness on why an open and free internet is important.</div><div><br></div><div> Philosophically, technology does not breed darkness as darkness really emnates out of the hearts of man- the desire to exploit, bring harm. Mankind has struggled over centuries in taming the heart. Mankind will always find a way to exploit vulnerabilities, whether these are systems, technology, infrastructure etc.</div><div><br></div><div>A statement from the global community would indeed be a useful reference point for decision makers and policy makers. One of your former PTA members is With ISOC and there are tonnes of opportunity for your organisations and new ones like ISOC Pakistan and other similar interest groups to create this much needed awareness. If you would like help from external groups, we can relay your requests for assistance.</div><div><br></div><div>In terms of Statements, we should press forward on this. What do others think?<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Aug 26, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Sana Saleem <<a href="mailto:sana@bolobhi.org">sana@bolobhi.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br><br>Hi Sala,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. Would be happy to brainstorm with IGC members over this. Given the lack of accountability and the prolonged debate over morality & religion, there are reasons to believe this will be used to violate rights.</div><div><br></div><div>But we believe its both our duty and important to educate people with in the government as to why such a technology would be bad, how it would be abuse and why they need to be wary of fundamental rights before making such decisions. </div><div><br></div><div>This is why networks like liberation tech and IGC are crucial for us. Allowing us to bring diverse voices and expertise, that aren't merely denouncing an action but also making governments and ppl at large more aware of why the stance is important.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd be happy to discuss/help further.</div><div><br></div><div>Sana</div><div><br>On 26-Aug-2013, at 12:56 AM, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div>Dear Sana, and All,</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for this important update and for updating the community on challenges in Pakistan. It might be useful for the IGC to consider developing a statement on surveillance vrs privacy. Whilst Article 19 of the ICCPR contains the exceptions, it is critical that these exceptions are not abused.</div><div><br></div><div>Filtering is not all bad where it is used to ensure that traffic flows seamlessly and is not bogged down by unwanted unsolicited traffic. The issue in terms of (unwanted and unsolicited) is distinguishing between what is ok and what just clogs up the network.</div><div><br></div><div>I recently visited two governments in the Pacific and noted that they had to manage traffic in a way that allowed fair and equitable use for its users. There are countries in the world where internet access is expensive as they do not have global submarine cables landing and rely in satellite for access, so unwarranted and unsolicited bulk mail or annoying traffic can cause serious congestions. </div><div><br></div><div>When filtering mechanisms are abused or when exceptions in Article 19 of the ICCPR are abused then this sets a dangerous precedent.</div><div><br></div><div>Over the last five years this has been increasingly a moral, ethical debate. Most countries are grappling with this in Europe, US, Pakistan and the Pacific.</div><div><br></div><div>The IGC might wish to consider developing a discussion and statement on this prior to Bali.</div><div><br></div><div>Kind Regards,</div><div>Sala</div><div><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Aug 26, 2013, at 7:40 AM, Sana Saleem <<a href="mailto:sana@bolobhi.org">sana@bolobhi.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Sorry for the delay in responding to you. On CC is my partner Farieha Aziz, who has been <font color="#000000">appointed Amicus Cureai in the case and has been advising the court on the civil liberties and policy aspects of the issue. Following are the details of her submission to the court on behalf </font></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#000000">of </font></span><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Bolo</span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"></span><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"> Bhi, as well as resources gathered by our team. Hope they're helpful. Please feel free to reach out and ask if you'd like more info, similarly please do suggest thoughts or advice on the matter:</span></font><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#000000">In short, in the last hearing the Judge, after discussions with PTA officials and the <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_noSuggestion GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">amicus</span>, that state based filters are not the solution. The discourse in the court <span class="GINGER_SOFATWARE_correct">is focused</span> on home based solutions, given how state based filters are prone to abuse. We feel the discourse in the court is heading towards the right direction. However, the minister of IT and the secretary have not appeared the court despite being called twice.</font></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><font color="#000000">We hope that the ministry pays heed to the courts requests and participates in the discourse. <br>
</font><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><font color="#000000">Here's a<a href="http://bolobhi.org/resources/timelines/youtube-case-updates-by-bolo-bhi/" target="_blank"> timeline for all updates </a><br>
</font><div><font color="#000000"><br></font></div><div><ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><b><a href="http://bolobhi.org/bolo-bhi-amicus-reports-on-youtube-case-hearing/" target="_blank"><font color="#000000">Bolo Bhi Amicus Report on Case Hearing</font></a></b></li>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><font color="#000000"><b><a href="http://bolobhi.org/bolo-bhis-submissions-to-court-in-youtube-case/" target="_blank">Bolo Bhi's Submission To The Court</a></b> ( through april &july + summary of court proceedings) <br>
</font></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><b><font color="#000000"><a href="http://bolobhi.org/bolo-bhis-submission-to-court-in-youtube-case-august-2-2013/" target="_blank">Bolo Bhi's Submission to Court August 2nd: Youtube & Educatio</a>n </font></b></li>
<li style="margin-left:15px"><b><font color="#000000"><a href="http://bolobhi.org/bolo-bhis-submission-to-court-in-youtube-case-august-2-part-2/" target="_blank">Bolo Bhi Submission to Court August 2nd: Experts Letters</a> </font></b></li>
</ul></div><div><div><b><font color="#000000">Resources from team and other experts:</font></b></div><div><ul><li style="margin-left:15px"><font color="#000000"><a href="http://bolobhi.org/understanding-how-https-works-with-ahmed-bilal-uncle-tipu/" target="_blank"><b>Understanding HTTPS</b> </a><br>
</font></li><li style="margin-left:15px"><font color="#000000"><b><a href="http://bolobhi.org/resources/timelines/youtube-ban-timeline-2012-2013/" target="_blank">TIMELINE: Youtube Ban 2012 - 2013</a></b><br></font></li>
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<b><font color="#000000"><a href="http://bolobhi.org/resources/timelines/pakistan-content-filtration-over-the-years/" target="_blank">TIMELINE: Content Filtration Over The Years</a></font></b></li></ul><div>Best, </div></div>
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Many thanks, Since we are aware of this important development, for National level URL Filtration and Blocking system proposal, hope it not yet in place. secondly the youtube block, can share any new outcomes or decision on youtube by the court. if any</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 21 August 2013 23:43, Sana Saleem <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sana@bolobhi.org" target="_blank">sana@bolobhi.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all, <div><br></div><div>Many of you have been of great support during our campaign to get Ministry of IT to shelve their plans for a National Level URL Filtration & Blocking System that was announced in February last year, through your consistent support and pressure we were able to get the ministry to shelve the plan last year. </div>
<div><br></div><div>However, as we feared and as now indicated through multiple media statements, the ministry is pursuing their plans and have <span>in fact</span> now indicated that the filters will be provided through an ISP for "free for one year". </div>
<div><br></div><div>As partners and supporters of campaigns run by Civil Society in Pakistan, we are sending out this note to keep you updated on the situation. We've issued a detailed statement regarding the issue alongside extensive resources that we have been producing, including submissions to court in the YouTube case in which our director is Amicus Curiae</div>
<div><br></div><div>Here's the link to our statement: <a href="http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/" target="_blank">http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/</a> </div>
<div>The successful campaign last year which is now being disregarded : <a href="http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_fp_100_global_thinkers?page=0,58#thinker100" target="_blank">http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/11/26/the_fp_100_global_thinkers?page=0,58#thinker100 </a></div>
<div>Submissions to court:<a href="http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/" target="_blank"> http://bolobhi.org/press-releases/minstry-of-it-no-to-internet-filters-censorship/ </a></div>
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