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<font face="Verdana">Izumi<br>
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Are we not asking for a parity with business reps in terms of
numbers and speaking slots - and BTW do we have an idea how this
HLM (high level meeting) is structured.... </font><font
face="Verdana">This year it is called high level leaders meeting
instead of high level ministerial meeting, presumably to
accommodate business sector leaders ( ICANN and ISOC were already
in at Baku HLM). </font><font face="Verdana">Is this a big
meeting with a very large number of attendees and just a few
speakers, or more of a round table kind of interactive thing.... I
heard stuff like 40 CEOs already listed... So how does this really
work.... <br>
<br>
I understand that it has the status of pre events and is not an
IGF event per se, and thus not really under the MAG but with the
local hosts to organise. Although for the Baku IGF, the high level
'ministerial' meeting is mentioned on the main IGF page and not on
the pre events page, which does list other pre events.. <br>
<br>
It is therefore important for us to be clear on the status of the
HLM - whether it is IGF or not... Also, this meeting does come up
with a declaration.... and since there is no other specific
declaration etc is adopted at the IGFs, with time, it can be
excepted/ feared that this HLM declaration will become 'the'
declaration coming from the IGF. <br>
<br>
Also, will be important to know who is going to draft the expected
declaration, and how...<br>
<br>
Last year the declaration was on a very general topic "challanges
of a hyper connected world", However cyber -ethics is a much more
complex and sensitive issues, so we better be more careful on
this...<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 10 August 2013 04:52 AM,
Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Dear list,
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<div>Below is the email exchange on the MAG list which is
archived and open to all.</div>
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<div>So, now it is our turn to respond to this open call (with
MAG members).</div>
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<div>best,</div>
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<div>izumi<br>
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From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Izumi AIZU</b> <span
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href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>></span><br>
Date: 2013/8/10<br>
Subject: Re: CS members to the HLLM<br>
To: Sardjoeni Moedjiono <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>><br>
Cc: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Dear
Mr. Moedjiono (and also all MAG members),</span><br>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px">Many thanks for the
encouraging reply to my suggestions.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px">Now, then, it is our
responsibility to send you the list of candidates</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px">to attend HLLM.</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px"><br>
</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px">I will ask our colleagues,
from Civil Society, to forward this message</span></font></div>
<div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
style="font-size:14px">to relevant bodies or
groups and get back to Mr. </span></font><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Moedjiono
for</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">their
invitation. </span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span
style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">I
am sure he will receive too many names to choose
from ;-)</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">izumi</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/9 <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com"
target="_blank">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Dear Mr. Izumi and all MAG Members,<br>
Thank you very much for your suggestions. I
agree with you. I invite all the MAG Members
to invite ICT Ministers, Business/Private
sectors CEOs, and Civil Society organization
leaders to attend the HLLM. Please send me
the complete list so we the OC can invite
them formally.<br>
Best regards,<br>
Moedjiono
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<div><b>From: </b> Izumi AIZU <<a
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<div><b>Date: </b>Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:22:44
+0900</div>
<div><b>To: </b>Sardjoeni Moedjiono<<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com"
target="_blank">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>></div>
<div><b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org"
target="_blank">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org"
target="_blank">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: CS members to the
HLLM</div>
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<p><span lang="EN-US">Dear Mr
Moedjiono,</span></p>
<p>As a MAG member form the Civil
Society, I
would like to first thank you and
all Indonesian colleagues for the
hard work
to host the next IGF in Bali despite
financial and other constraints we
all
share.</p>
<p>Now, I would like to clarify one
thing. In
your statement to the MAG, we got an
impression that the participants
from the
Civil Society to the High Level
Leaders Meeting will be nominated by
ICC, the
private sector focal point to IGF.
However, we received a message that
ICC has
no intention to select other
stakeholders for this matter, sent
by Ms. Ayesha
Hassan of ICC. I believe you are
open to the suggestions from the
civil society
members at large.</p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">We like to ask
you to make an open call for
suggestions and contact a number
of civil society groups active in
the IGF
related activities to submit their
recommendations for the
participants to the
HLM. If I may, I like ID-Config,
the Indonesian Civil Society
group, to be the
focal point on this matter, as we
have high respect to them. Civil
Society
Internet Governance Caucus, with
two co-coordinators, is also a
good candidate
for such work. I am also a member
of this group, IGC, and if you so
think I can
liaise to them.</span></p>
<p>I am sure other MAG members from
Civil Society
also have good ideas about this
matter so that we can all help make
the meeting
a real multi-stakeholder endeavor,
without disenfranchising any. </p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">I appreciate
your wise consideration in
advance and look forward to seeing
you all in Bali soon for the
successful IGF.</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">Sincerely,</span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-US">izumi</span></p>
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