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    <font face="Verdana">Izumi<br>
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      Are we not asking for a parity with business reps in terms of
      numbers and speaking slots - and BTW do we have an idea how this
      HLM (high level meeting) is structured.... </font><font
      face="Verdana">This year it is called high level leaders meeting
      instead of high level ministerial meeting, presumably to
      accommodate business sector leaders ( ICANN and ISOC were already
      in at Baku HLM). </font><font face="Verdana">Is this a big
      meeting with a very large number of attendees and just a few
      speakers, or more of a round table kind of interactive thing.... I
      heard stuff like 40 CEOs already listed... So how does this really
      work.... <br>
      <br>
      I understand that it has the status of pre events and is not an
      IGF event per se, and thus not really under the MAG but with the
      local hosts to organise. Although for the Baku IGF, the high level
      'ministerial' meeting is mentioned on the main IGF page and not on
      the pre events page, which does list other pre events.. <br>
      <br>
      It is therefore important for us to be clear on the status of the
      HLM - whether it is IGF or not... Also, this meeting does come up
      with a declaration.... and since there is no other specific
      declaration etc is adopted at the IGFs, with time,  it can be
      excepted/ feared that this HLM declaration will become 'the'
      declaration coming from the IGF. <br>
      <br>
      Also, will be important to know who is going to draft the expected
      declaration, and how...<br>
      <br>
      Last year the declaration was on a very general topic "challanges
      of a hyper connected world", However cyber -ethics is a much more
      complex and sensitive issues, so we better be more careful on
      this...<br>
      <br>
      parminder <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 10 August 2013 04:52 AM,
      Izumi AIZU wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Dear list,
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        <div>Below is the email exchange on the MAG list which is
          archived and open to all.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>So, now it is our turn to respond to this open call (with
          MAG members).</div>
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        <div>best,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>izumi<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message
              ----------<br>
              From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Izumi AIZU</b> <span
                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:iza@anr.org">iza@anr.org</a>></span><br>
              Date: 2013/8/10<br>
              Subject: Re: CS members to the HLLM<br>
              To: Sardjoeni Moedjiono <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>><br>
              Cc: "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>"
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>><br>
              <br>
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              <div dir="ltr"><span
                  style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Dear
                  Mr. Moedjiono (and also all MAG members),</span><br>
                <div><span
                    style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
                  </span></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px">Many thanks for the
                      encouraging reply to my suggestions.</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px">Now, then, it is our
                      responsibility to send you the list of candidates</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px">to attend HLLM.</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px"><br>
                    </span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px">I will ask our colleagues,
                      from Civil Society, to forward this message</span></font></div>
                <div><font color="#500050" face="arial, sans-serif"><span
                      style="font-size:14px">to relevant bodies or
                      groups and get back to Mr. </span></font><span
                    style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Moedjiono
                    for</span></div>
                <div><span
                    style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">their
                    invitation. </span></div>
                <div><span
                    style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br>
                  </span></div>
                <div><span
                    style="color:rgb(80,0,80);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">I
                    am sure he will receive too many names to choose
                    from ;-)</span></div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra">izumi</div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">2013/8/9 <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>></span>
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                          <div>Dear Mr. Izumi and all MAG Members,<br>
                            Thank you very much for your suggestions. I
                            agree with you. I invite all the MAG Members
                            to invite ICT Ministers, Business/Private
                            sectors CEOs, and Civil Society organization
                            leaders to attend the HLLM. Please send me
                            the complete list so we the OC can invite
                            them formally.<br>
                            Best regards,<br>
                            Moedjiono
                            <div>Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®</div>
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                            <div><b>From: </b> Izumi AIZU <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:iza@anr.org"
                                target="_blank">iza@anr.org</a>>
                            </div>
                            <div><b>Sender: </b> <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:izumiaizu@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">izumiaizu@gmail.com</a>
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                            <div><b>Date: </b>Fri, 9 Aug 2013 11:22:44
                              +0900</div>
                            <div><b>To: </b>Sardjoeni Moedjiono<<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:moedjiono@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">moedjiono@gmail.com</a>></div>
                            <div><b>Cc: </b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org"
                                target="_blank">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:igf_members@intgovforum.org"
                                target="_blank">igf_members@intgovforum.org</a>></div>
                            <div><b>Subject: </b>Re: CS members to the
                              HLLM</div>
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                                  <p><span lang="EN-US">Dear Mr
                                      Moedjiono,</span></p>
                                  <p>As a MAG member form the Civil
                                    Society, I
                                    would like to first thank you and
                                    all Indonesian colleagues for the
                                    hard work
                                    to host the next IGF in Bali despite
                                    financial and other constraints we
                                    all
                                    share.</p>
                                  <p>Now, I would like to clarify one
                                    thing. In
                                    your statement to the MAG, we got an
                                    impression that the participants
                                    from the
                                    Civil Society to the High Level
                                    Leaders Meeting will be nominated by
                                    ICC, the
                                    private sector focal point to IGF.
                                    However, we received a message that
                                    ICC has
                                    no intention to select other
                                    stakeholders for this matter, sent
                                    by Ms. Ayesha
                                    Hassan of ICC. I believe you are
                                    open to the suggestions from the
                                    civil society
                                    members at large.</p>
                                  <p><span lang="EN-US">We like to ask
                                      you to make an open call for
                                      suggestions and contact a number
                                      of civil society groups active in
                                      the IGF
                                      related activities to submit their
                                      recommendations for the
                                      participants to the
                                      HLM. If I may, I like ID-Config,
                                      the Indonesian Civil Society
                                      group, to be the
                                      focal point on this matter, as we
                                      have high respect to them. Civil
                                      Society
                                      Internet Governance Caucus, with
                                      two co-coordinators, is also a
                                      good candidate
                                      for such work. I am also a member
                                      of this group, IGC, and if you so
                                      think I can
                                      liaise to them.</span></p>
                                  <p>I am sure other MAG members from
                                    Civil Society
                                    also have good ideas about this
                                    matter so that we can all help make
                                    the meeting
                                    a real multi-stakeholder endeavor,
                                    without disenfranchising any. </p>
                                  <p><span lang="EN-US">I appreciate
                                      your wise consideration in
                                      advance and look forward to seeing
                                      you all in Bali soon for the
                                      successful IGF.</span></p>
                                  <p><span lang="EN-US">Sincerely,</span></p>
                                  <p><span lang="EN-US">izumi</span></p>
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