<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div>It is also possible that everything was planned for and put in place, and at the eleventh hour they received additional costs from the UN. I also wonder if there was a political change of heart once the full impact of thee cost and principle of <span id="misspell-0" class=""><span>Internet</span></span> governance and the proposed debates.<br><br>The net publicity generated by this "rumor could be catalytic in capturing the attention of key players which also could result in change of policy at UN level regarding funding or offers of funding to come through for this year or for the next.<br><br>Shaila <br><br></div> <div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><style><!--filtered {font-family:"Comic Sans MS";panose-1:3 15 7 2 3 3 2 2 2 4;}p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
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0);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;"></span></span><span style="font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;"></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;"><b style=""><span style="font-size:10pt;color:purple;">The journey begins sooner than you anticipate !</span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:left;"><b style=""><span style="font-size:10pt;color:purple;">..................... the renaissance of composure !<br></span></b></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Suresh
Ramasubramanian <suresh@hserus.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "governance@lists.igcaucus.org" <governance@lists.igcaucus.org>; Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.org> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Internet Governance Caucus <governance@lists.igcaucus.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 29, 2013 5:14 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] <span id="misspell-4" class="mark">IGF</span> <span id="misspell-5" class="mark">Cancelled</span> & thoughts about 2014<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv5441403981"><div><div>Something on this scale is best prepared and venues finalized like two years in advance. And set <span id="misspell-6" class="mark">timelines</span> with deadlines for specific tasks prepared as pointers for the successful local
hosts.</div><div><br></div><div>--<span id="misspell-7" class="mark">srs</span> (<span id="misspell-8" class="mark">iPad</span>)</div><div><br>On 29-Jul-2013, at 17:23, Robert Guerra <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span id="misspell-9" class="mark">Izumi</span>,<div><br></div><div>Let met concur that I am hearing the same thing from contacts in the country.</div><div><br></div><div>As has been reported by other posts, discussions and efforts are underway to 1. see if the event in the country can be saved, and 2. develop possible contingency plans should the event not be able to be hosted in Indonesia.</div><div><br></div><div>While other discussions have focused on options regarding dealing with the situation, let me advance another issue - that being the 2014 <span id="misspell-10"
class="mark">IGF</span>. To my knowledge, no country has yet publicly stated an offer to host the event. Hopefully, a country that is far more able to support and bring the political support needed to host the <span id="misspell-11" class="mark">IGF</span> can step forward. </div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>Robert</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 2013-07-28, at 12:22 AM, <span id="misspell-12" class="mark">Izumi</span> <span id="misspell-13" class="mark">AIZU</span> wrote:</div><br class="yiv5441403981Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;">Hi,</span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;">A friend who is with Indonesian Civil Society working with the</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;">organizing committee sent me the following.</span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;"><br></span></font></div><div>
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It's true that <span id="misspell-14" class="mark">IGF</span> 2013 committee is facing financial problem and it's likely to be <span id="misspell-15" class="mark">cancelled</span>. But, we have not announced official notification of the cancellation yet since now UN is trying to help us finding resources to cope with it. We will update later about the result. </span><div>
<span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">T</span><span style="font-family:arial, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">hank you.</span><div>
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</span></div></div><div class="yiv5441403981gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv5441403981gmail_quote">2013/7/28 Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span><br><blockquote class="yiv5441403981gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Given <span id="misspell-18" class="mark">marilla's</span> email, this appears to be a nonstarter, and so, moot.<br>
<br>
And it sounds very strange if some people were to continuously disparage a community or organization on the one hand, and demand sponsorship money from them on the other, on the grounds that the amount involved is hardly a rounding error in their revenue (or even their <span id="misspell-19" class="mark">ebitda</span>), just saying.<br>
<br>
--<span id="misspell-20" class="mark">srs</span> (<span id="misspell-21" class="mark">iPad</span>)<br>
<div class="yiv5441403981HOEnZb"><div class="yiv5441403981h5"><br>
On 27-Jul-2013, at 23:44, Norbert <span id="misspell-22" class="mark">Bollow</span> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank" href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> <span id="misspell-23" class="mark">Parminder</span> <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> All of them opposed UN funding for the <span id="misspell-24" class="mark">IGF</span><br>
><br>
> Is there anyone who in view of the current debacle is still opposed to<br>
> UN funding for the <span id="misspell-25" class="mark">IGF</span>?<br>
><br>
>> but can they explain why they opposed 'committed' funding from <span id="misspell-26" class="mark">ICANN</span><br>
>> collected Internet taxes, say of 2 million every year... Isn't that<br>
>> the right model of funding the <span id="misspell-27" class="mark">IGF</span> , keeping if safe from <span id="misspell-28" class="mark">staist</span> as<br>
>> well corporate controls....<br>
><br>
> I am not sure that <span id="misspell-29" class="mark">ICANN's</span> collection of domain name taxes is the right<br>
> funding model for anything (it presupposes that domain names are sold<br>
> for a price which makes them quite unaffordable to a very significant<br>
> number of poor people) but as long as <span id="misspell-30" class="mark">ICANN's</span> funding model remains as<br>
> it currently is, in view of <span id="misspell-31" class="mark">ICANN's</span> <span id="misspell-32" class="mark">financials</span> [1], funding at least a<br>
> significant part of the cost of <span id="misspell-33" class="mark">IGF</span> meetings from <span id="misspell-34" class="mark">ICANN's</span> budget<br>
> indeed makes a lot of sense.<br>
> [1] <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials">http://www.icann.org/en/about/financials</a><br>
><br>
> Greetings,<br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Recommendations for effective and constructive participation in <span id="misspell-35" class="mark">IGC</span>:<br>
> 1. Respond to the content of assertions and arguments, not to the person<br>
> 2. Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept<br>
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