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<p>Before jumping to that conclusion, is there any indication that this
cash for slots idea was an initiative endorsed and operated by the MAG or
the secretariat, rather than by an uninformed local team? <br>
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--srs (htc one x)<br>
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<p>On 28 July 2013 5:20:01 PM parminder <parminder@itforchange.net> wrote:</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Saturday 27 July 2013 03:33 PM,
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        <div>On 27/07/2013, at 3:42 PM, parminder <<a
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">Following up on the
            current IGF cancellation imbroglio, I happened to see what
            is called as the <a moz-do-not-send="true"
             
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              raising proposal'</a> of the managing committee of Bali
            IGF..... Sorry to say, but it is a pure scandal....<br>
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      <div>This is hopefully just naivety on the part of the local
        organisers, who didn't appreciate the difference between the IGF
        and any other Internet conference.  <br>
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    Well, may be.... although we tend to be selective about whom are we
    ready to easily forgive and for what... But in any case, what about
    the IGF secretariat and the MAG. Can they also be considered naive
    and / or innocent.  They obviously knew of this document. BTW, the
    document says that it is trying a new multistakeholder model for
    holding the IGFs..  Does it not then constitute an express blessing
    by the IGF secretariat and the MAG to such a 'new model'. <br>
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    IGFs are held under the UN flag and the IGF space is subject to UN
    conference rules and immunities..... Would many things in the
    document not fundamentally be violative of some of these norms and
    rules.... In other circumstances, this would have immediately led to
    an inquiry and questions being raised officially about how did the
    IGF secretarit and the MAG allow such a thing.... But we are not in
    normal circumstances,  this is the times of a strong ascendency of
    neo-liberal ideology..... And those who need to have triggered the
    outrage, the civil society, seem to be happy to quietly condone it
    as well. <br>
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    And what about the 1 million dollar that has been raised, I would
    think, on the basis this document. Is the IGF now bound by the
    promises made under the sponsorship deals.... And if these deals are
    not valid, because we would not want to deliver on the promises, can
    we still consider to have that 1 million dollar for holding the IGF?<br>
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    parminder <br>
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      <div>They can be forgiven for this because indeed until now there
        has been precious little difference between the IGF and any
        other Internet conference.  That this could have happened is
        more of an indictment of the state of the IGF than of the
        Indonesian team.</div>
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