<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">I also agree with Kivuva.</span><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">While we are pessimistic about the organization of IGF in Bali, I think we should wait for the "final" confirmation from both official Indonesian Government and also IGF Secretariat. At MAG, we have not heard any formal decision.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">Of course, things look like in very bad shape, but there could be more effort to raise funding and also reduce the cost so that we could still go to Bali. The current yellow</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">light does not necessarily mean the final red in my view.</span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">Which should not of course exclude the planning of the Plan B. However, the very core of IGF, its multi-stakeholder dimension be kept as many also point out. And I think we should still pursue face to face meeting, not pure online at least at this stage.</span></font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><br></span></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px">izumi</span></font></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/7/27 Anriette Esterhuysen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:anriette@apc.org" target="_blank">anriette@apc.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Very good point Kivuva.<br>
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On 26/07/2013 19:04, Kivuva wrote:<br>
> The once in a year face to face meeting is an important opportunity to<br>
> connect faces and build bridges by socializing at a more personal<br>
> level. Online discussions are great, moreso as cost saving models and<br>
> a way to build consensus and produce results over a long time, but<br>
> also as a way to create a cartel of very enthusiastic IG experts where<br>
> the "rest" don't know how to come in or what is happening<br>
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