<div dir="ltr">However - weighing in with Jeremy  and Ginger - I don't see that having the meeting online would necessarily preclude the attendance of governments?<div>Deirdre<br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra">

<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 July 2013 11:37, David Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu" target="_blank">David_Allen_AB63@post.harvard.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>The desire to 'go independent' is always understandable.</div><div><br></div><div>However.</div><div><br></div><div>A, if not the, IGF challenge has been to get serious engagement by governments, and most all governments.  Since governments hold the power, such engagement is fundamental - without it, IGF is effectively window dressing on the policy process.</div>

<div><br></div><div>To 'go independent' virtually assures no prospect for serious, more-or-less across the board, government engagement.  So no 'multi' in the multi-stakeholder.  At least not that - essential - multi.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Said with - nonetheless - full appreciation for all that Jeremy and Ginger bring to the work.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>David</div></font></span><div><div class="h5">

<div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Ginger Paque wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Jeremy said:<br>Alternatively it could be time for the IGF to be reimagined in    purely online form.  At least that would ensure that more attention    is given to the remote participation experience.<br>

<br></div>YES, Jeremy: it's time! I suggested this in today's MAG meeting, but there was not time to address the possibility. I do hope it is given serious consideration.<br> <br></div>gp<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">

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 <i></i><br><span style="font-family:arial;font-size:small"><b><i><span style="font-size:10pt"></span></i></b></span></div></span></div></div></div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 July 2013 22:44, Jeremy Malcolm <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org" target="_blank">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">           <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">    <div>On 26/07/13 11:37,      <a href="mailto:genekimmelman@gmail.com" target="_blank">genekimmelman@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br>

    </div>    <blockquote type="cite">            I imagine other governments that really want the event to proceed      will now weigh in to help<br>    </blockquote>    <br>    If not, then it will really confirm the contempt with which the IGF    is held as a process.  There are Silicon Valley parties that have    cost more than the IGF's $1.05M shortfall.<br>

    <br>    Alternatively it could be time for the IGF to be reimagined in    purely online form.  At least that would ensure that more attention    is given to the remote participation experience.<br>    <br>    <div>-- <br>

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