<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>I agree, it is very early, and difficult to comply. Note that Chengatai also said that workshops will be assessed as indicated, and if a workshop has very few or no panellists confirmed, for example, they may lose their slot; this should not be seen as an extension of the deadline to meet the requirements. <br>
<br></div>If anyone has any questions, I would suggest contacting the secretariat at igf @ <a href="http://unog.ch">unog.ch</a> (delete the spaces) with your specific information and comments. I would also hope that the MAG members on this list are taking note and doing what they can to support our workshop organization.<br>
<br></div>Thanks, all,<br></div>Ginger<br><div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 July 2013 11:21, Nick Ashton-Hart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nashton@consensus.pro" target="_blank">nashton@consensus.pro</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">This is useful information. However, to me it is still unreasonably early. Why is it not possible to print things later so they can be more accurate?<div>
<br></div><div>I understand the need not to change the time and date of sessions after a certain point, and making the organisers of sessions work this out between themselves. I don't see it as reasonably to require freezing information for printing 90 days early.</div>
<div><br><div><div>On 16 Jul 2013, at 18:09, Ginger Paque <<a href="mailto:ginger@paque.net" target="_blank">ginger@paque.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I had a quick communication with Chengetai, and what I understand from him and the website is that accepted workshops (81 according to the website at <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-status-" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/workshop-status-</a>) should have as much information (confirmed panelist names) as possible by July 18th, because editing of workshops and panelists will be closed for two weeks while the Secretariat sets up a workshop schedule, using the currently available information to avoid conflicts in presenters/panelists schedules. Printing of information will also be based on information available on July 18th.<br>
<br>He said:<br><br>'<span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;display:inline!important;font-weight:normal;float:none;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">The deadline is meant just so that we can plan and schedule the workshops according to the panelists indicated by the workshop organisers. Also for the printing. '</span><br>
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And... 'I do understand that things may change and people may want to add or delete panelists. But after the 18th this will be for informational purposes only. The workshop organizer cannot ask the Secretariat to reschedule their workshops based on these updates the onus will be on the workshop organiser to find details another workshop organiser willing to swop.'</div>
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And...<br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
'With this understanding we can freeze changes for 2 weeks then open it up again for additional changes. But all workshops will be processed according to their status on the<span> </span><span style="border-bottom:1px dashed rgb(204,204,204)"><span>18 July</span></span><span> </span>deadline. '<br>
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I hope this helps a bit.<br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
You might ask your panelists to confirm, with the proviso that they will present remotely if they cannot be in Bali.<br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
For panelist info, it looks to me (not confirmed, this is conjecture) that you can upload panelist info without confirming. <br><br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
There will be support for remote panelists, which is one way of enlarging the group of available experts to include new voices. Let me know if I can help in any way ...<br><br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
Good luck with this amazing task you/we are taking on. It's incredible what can be achieved by volunteer energy!<br></div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:start;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;font-family:arial,sans-serif;word-spacing:0px">
Ginger<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 July 2013 08:57, Nick Ashton-Hart <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nashton@consensus.pro" target="_blank">nashton@consensus.pro</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="DE"><p dir="ltr">You are definitely not alone in your views. It is unreasonable, and it is part of why we all see the same voices over represented every year: session organisers choose people they know will be there because these deadlines make that the only choice they have.</p>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">sandra hoferichter <<a href="mailto:sandra.hoferichter@freenet.de" target="_blank">sandra.hoferichter@freenet.de</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><p><span lang="EN-GB">Am I the only one who has a problem with such early timelines?
Is this a recommendation from the MAG? It will simply not work out.</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">Sandra </span></p>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div>
<div>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p><b>Von:</b><span> <a href="mailto:sandra@eurodig.org" target="_blank">sandra@eurodig.org</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:sandra@eurodig.org" target="_blank">sandra@eurodig.org</a>] <br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 16. </span><span lang="EN-GB">Juli 2013 15:47<br>
<b>An:</b> 'IGF' <br>
<b>Betreff:</b> AW: Final deadline and requirements for workshop proposal
completeness</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div>
</div>
</div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">Dear IGF Secretariat,</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div>
<br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">I raised this issue already but like to draw your attention
again. For some organisations or companies it is not possible to decide on such
an early stage who will participate in a session in October. Among them are
organisations like the European Commission or ETNO. I have been informed that
they will participate in our workshop (no. 40), but can only decide on a later
stage which person will be sent to Bali. I assume this is not only the case for
our session, but applies also to other organisers.</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">While I can understand the demand, to get things sorted out on
an early stage, I consider this way of moving forward is not feasible. </span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">Kind regards</span></p>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><p><span lang="EN-GB">Sandra Hoferichter</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span lang="EN-GB"></span><br></div>
<div> <br></div><div><br></div>
<div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(181,196,223) -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"><p><b>Von:</b><span> Sourakatou Ramanou
BIAOU [mailto:<a href="mailto:SBIAOU@unog.ch" target="_blank">SBIAOU@unog.ch</a>] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>IGF<br>
<b>Gesendet:</b> Dienstag, 16. Juli 2013 15:29<br>
<b>Betreff:</b> Final deadline and requirements for workshop proposal
completeness</span></p><div><br></div><div><br></div>
</div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><p><span>Dear
Workshop Proponent, </span><br>
<br>
<span>Kindly note
that the final deadline for editing your workshop proposal(s) is 18 July 2013.
Once this date has passed, you will not be able to make changes to your proposal(s)
anymore, including panellists registration and confirmation. </span><br>
<br>
<span>Please also
bear in mind that registering the name of an organization is not sufficient.
Each panellist should be an individual. </span><br>
<br>
<span>We thank you
for your continued interest in IGF and valued contribution to IGF 2013. </span><br>
<br>
<span>Best regards,<br>
IGF Secretariat</span></p><div><br></div>
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