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<font face="Verdana">Yes, Michael, beyond hand wringing one must go
- as a responsible political group....<br>
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I have suggested that the Internet Rights and Principles (IRP) </font>Coalition
anchors this as a civil society initiative, building it on its
existing IRP document.... Comes up with principles that should
govern ownership of personal data, and other legal processes around
it.<br>
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But, this can usefully happen only around an institutional anchor
with possible international adoption, and thus fruitfulness....
Like OECD's Internet policy committee seeking to adopt such norms
and principles, and civil society making the initial contribution,
and then keeping up the pressure. Something like that at a global
scale. <br>
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Internet is a new shared global 'living space', like perhaps none
before (or just a few, like macro geo-ecology) ..... We must, with
some urgency, come to begin setting the norms and rules for our
collective sharing and living in this new space..... There is just
no other option, Sooner we realise this, the better. (But of course
those who can dominate this space in absence of legitimate norms and
rules use all kinds of devices to push back any such progressive
move. The problem is that civil society has mostly taken the
bait.....)<br>
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And so we need to figure out not only the possible blueprints of
such norms and rules (which themselves beg a platform to take them
forward), but also the institutional systems for their fruitful
adoption, and, to the extent needed, enforcement.... Like Dominique
recently suggested on this list, an International court for digital
rights.... Such kind of stuff.....<br>
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Time we pulled our proverbial head out of the sand.....<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 02 July 2013 12:35 PM,
michael gurstein wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If
this is to move beyond hand wringing into some sort of
action then there will need to be some very concerted and
high quality intervention from CS. Many of those with an
interest in these matters are quite compromised (including
various of the larger states) and will have security
appartuses which will be very reluctant to support
initiatives. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Many
smaller states with an interest will not have expertise. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Perhaps
a working group of CS might be struck specifically to be
thinking about measures that could be proposed concerning
the control of security/privacy interventions at a global
level. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It
would be great I think, (in fact necessary if possible) that
this be truly multi-stakeholder with a very very signficant
role for the Technical community, associated/sympathetic
private sector and sympathetic governments, but I think that
CS needs to take the lead in beginning some sort of
formulation and the creation of the framework to undertake
this work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">M<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net">mailto:bestbits-request@lists.bestbits.net</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>parminder<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 02, 2013 10:34 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>;
<,<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net>">bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>,<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bestbits] "UN must step in to stop
cyber threats"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Below from an Indian newspaper.... <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130702/commentary-dc-comment/commentary/un%E2%80%88must-step-stop-cyber-threats">http://www.deccanchronicle.com/130702/commentary-dc-comment/commentary/un%E2%80%88must-step-stop-cyber-threats</a>
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Now that the chimera of the US as the unique upholder of
Internet's values and people's rights on the Internet is so
obviously exposed....... and we know that when US calls for a
single unified global Internet, and its unique historic role
in its governance (read, control), what really does it
mean....<br>
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parminder <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">from the Deccan Chronicle<o:p></o:p></p>
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<h1>UN must step in to stop cyber threats<o:p></o:p></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal">DC | 2 hours 7 min ago <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"This is not the Cold War
anymore,” says an upset Germany. This was the
mildest of rebukes thus far in the wake of the
revelations about the American NSA courtesy Edward
Snowden.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Spying has been taken into
another dimension altogether and the present
battle could well be called the “Great Cyber War”.
The United States, caught spying, does not have a
fig leaf of deniability.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is not just Big Brother
watching over its citizens, as portrayed in the
landmark novel 1984. The US has crossed all limits
and is now spying on its closest friends and
thickest allies as well.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">European Union nations have
been forced to undertake security sweeps to ensure
their computer systems are not being hacked into
and their telephone conversations eavesdropped
upon.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">China, first typecast as the
world’s original cyber bad boy, is mockingly
pointing to its great rival across the seas to
show the world there isn’t just one culprit in
modern espionage. If all nations do not get
together and sign a treaty to stop cyber
espionage, things are only going to get worse for
those who love privacy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The United States’ spying on
its allies takes the issue beyond the fundamental
argument that the threat of terrorism overrides
the tenets of privacy and justifies invasion of
individual liberties. What the great National
Security Agency spy programs of Maryland and Utah
have been doing is to spy on governments, their
trade, science, military and political secrets. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">All explanations regarding
PRISM and other programs studying only metadata,
and not prying into individual interactions over
the Internet and telephone, cut no ice with a
world that is aghast at the temerity of the most
powerful nation in a virtually unipolar world.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Much like Germany, India, too,
protested so mildly that its voice was hardly
heard when US secretary of state John Kerry came
calling last week. So protective of his guest was
our foreign minister, Salman Khurshid, that the
media could not question the visiting dignitary on
what his country’s real intentions are in setting
up this elaborate $40-billion-plus spying
apparatus that snoops on the world.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">China came through far more
aggressively in questioning the United States on
all that the world has heard ever since a
sub-contractor went on the lam and spilled the
beans from Hong Kong with the help of WikiLeaks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">If clarity and transparency are
the qualities most needed to cool tensions among
nations and passions among privacy-seekers, what
will really serve society is for the United
Nations to pay serious attention to this crisis of
confidence and come up with an action plan to mark
cyber boundaries and make them as inviolable as
possible by common consent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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