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Kerry<br>
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Lets agree to you contention - it does not matter 'which legal
system ICANN operates under" (although I think it does).<br>
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Now, if this is so, it should be ideal that ICANN operates under an
international legal system, under UN auspice, rather than of one
country... Just looks and feels nicer, fairer, democratic etc etc.
No? Even if just for its symbolic value - and you know, in politics
symbolic values count for a lot. <br>
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However, moment you propose that, there are shrill cries all over -
UN out to control the Internet. Now, how does the logic you propose
suddenly change completely when it is the UN/ international legal
regime instead of US... That is the paradox. And I will be happy to
hear your response to it. <br>
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So, the simple question is this: How when US exercises oversight
over the ICANN, it is contended that the 'oversight' issue bears, or
can bear, no connection to content, and other control related
issues, whatsoever; but when it is proposed that an international/
UN body takes up oversight of ICANN, these issues suddenly become
the most relevant ones??<br>
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parminder <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 11 June 2013 09:42 PM, Kerry
Brown wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The subject line will probably stir some
controversy. Because of that I will state my position clearly
so people don’t misunderstand where I’m coming from. I abhor
the Patriot Act. I abhor governments secretly collecting data
with no oversight. I abhor how the Patriot Act has affected my
country which is Canada. Because of the Patriot Act I am
actively supporting the establishment of more IXPs in Canada
to help keep Canadian data in Canada. I actively lobby my
government to be more open and transparent.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Now to the question I posed. Are we not
conflating two issues that are not related? Solving one won’t
change the other. If ICANN moved to a different jurisdiction
tomorrow what would change re the American government’s access
to private data? Many of the services that Internet users
worldwide want to access are provided by American based
companies subject to American law. Much of the world’s
Internet traffic is carried on communications media owned by
American companies subject to American law. How would changing
the jurisdiction that ICANN operates under change the reality
that if the American government wants to spy on anybody they
could do so with relative ease?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I am all for investigating what it would
take to move ICANN away from US jurisdiction. There are many
questions that need to be answered and problems that would
need to be solved but in the end I believe it would be a good
thing. I fail to see however that it would in any way hinder
the US governments’ ability to collect data from the Internet.
These are two distinct issues that will require different
solutions.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kerry Brown<o:p></o:p></p>
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