<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear all,<div><br></div><div>Reading the governance list, I'm struck by how little discussion there is on how to take the things that you presumably agree on (objection to overbroad surveillance, etc.) and do something productive with it; it seems almost all effort is spent trying to score points against factions.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this really the best that this list can do?</div><div><br></div><div>Other lists - like Best Bits - are responding with statements and the like on topical subjects. Would you rather score points <b>against</b> one another, or score points <b>for</b> the public interest?</div></body></html>