<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Parminder,<div><br></div><div>I have previously disclosed that fact ad-nauseum, on this list, and quite recently as you are well aware. In this case, I'm making an observation that's not connected to my day-job; I'm watching this story unfold via reportage just like everyone else is (and, personally, am pretty horrified by what I'm reading).</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 7 Jun 2013, at 17:47, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Friday 07 June 2013 08:26 PM, Nick
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        involvement categorically, as has been reported subsequently to
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    Dear Nick,<br>
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    I agree that the fact that these companies have denied involvement
    may need to be highlighted. However, I'd very much appreciate that
    while making such a posting as above you declare your job as
    representing the interests of at least some of these companies.
    Unlike what you may assume, not every reader would know that. This
    is a normal tenet of public discussions. Thanks.<br>
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    parminder <br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jun 2013 16:52, "michael gurstein"
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            <div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Guardian:<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data</a><br>
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                Wa<span style="color:#1f497d">shington </span>Po<span style="color:#1f497d">st</span>:<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html</a><br>
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                some of the slides<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/</a><br>
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                Participating companies in chronological order:
                Microsoft, Yahoo,<br>
                Google, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple.
                Dropbox<br>
                apparently next up.<br>
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