<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial">If the information is false, the companies will
certainly take legal action (not just PR) to clear their names and will seek
compensation for damages. Specially because they are
US based, which would make it easier. Only a totally transparent judicial review could possibly settle this case. At this point, even if the US gov apologized or said the story is not true (which they did not), the doubts would still remain. Would they be truly apologizing? Would they be trying to hush up the story not to lose the whole alleged scheme? I don't see how companies could possibly make amends if they are truly clean on all that.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial">Anyway, it is a case of major concern, I hope we as an international coalition follow it as closely and mobilize ourselves as strongly as if it was a case related to China or Iran. In fact, if the case proves to be solid, the consequences would go much beyond national surveillance.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial">It seems Anonymous has published some related documents today: <a href="http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773">http://gizmodo.com/anonymous-just-leaked-a-trove-of-nsa-documents-511854773</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-family:Arial">Marília<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:13pt"></span></span></p>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net" target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I agree with nick here<br>
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--srs (htc one x)<br>
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</p><p>On 7 June 2013 9:34:20 PM Nick Ashton-Hart <u></u> wrote:</p>
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Dear Parminder,<div><br></div><div>I have previously disclosed
that fact ad-nauseum, on this list, and quite recently as you are well
aware. In this case, I'm making an observation that's not connected to my
day-job; I'm watching this story unfold via reportage just like everyone
else is (and, personally, am pretty horrified by what I'm
reading).</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On 7 Jun 2013, at 17:47,
parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net" target="_blank">parminder@itforchange.net</a>>
wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>On Friday 07 June 2013 08:26 PM, Nick
Ashton-Hart wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><p dir="ltr">It is worth noting that the companies have all denied
involvement categorically, as has been reported subsequently to
the original reportage.</p>
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Dear Nick,<br>
<br>
I agree that the fact that these companies have denied involvement
may need to be highlighted. However, I'd very much appreciate that
while making such a posting as above you declare your job as
representing the interests of at least some of these companies.
Unlike what you may assume, not every reader would know that. This
is a normal tenet of public discussions. Thanks.<br>
<br>
parminder <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 7 Jun 2013 16:52, "michael gurstein"
<<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Guardian:<br>
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data" target="_blank">http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data</a><br>
<br>
Wa<span style="color:#1f497d">shington </span>Po<span style="color:#1f497d">st</span>:<br>
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/us-intelligence-mining-data-from-nine-us-internet-companies-in-broad-secret-program/2013/06/06/3a0c0da8-cebf-11e2-8845-d970ccb04497_story_1.html</a><br>
<br>
some of the slides<br>
<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/prism-collection-documents/</a><br>
<br>
Participating companies in chronological order:
Microsoft, Yahoo,<br>
Google, Facebook, PalTalk, YouTube, Skype, AOL, Apple.
Dropbox<br>
apparently next up.<br>
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