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<div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color: #000000;font-size: 10pt;">All too true, speaking of my own waist only of course : (<br>
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But - there's hope the Internet may go on a diet, at least according to Steve Deering.<br>
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<a href="http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2011/03/hourglass-london-ietf.pd" target="_blank">http://www.iab.org/wp-content/IAB-uploads/2011/03/hourglass-london-ietf.pd</a><br>
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Still whether or not the IPv6 - diet - is effective, doesn't change my observation/contention we may find public goods both above and below the IP layer, in the present Internet ecosystem. As well as, many private goods.<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:19 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Internet as a commons/ public good: in an Hourglass<br>
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On 25 Apr 2013, at 09:31, Lee W McKnight wrote:<br>
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> Or just google 'Internet hourglass' and you will get some variations and food for thought. Meaning: a narrow, stable, and rigorously vetted and maintained by the Internet technical and yes academic community layer that - makes the Internet possible. Tying
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> Internet -Protocol- (whether v4 or v6) IS a public good. An explicitly - no proprietary rights allowed - internetworking protocol, on which a few billion people's ability to intercommunicate hangs, would anyone's definition of a - global - public good.
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> I presume we may all agree on this? <br>
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We may all agree that it is good, I certainly do, but this in more in mourning the fact that the waist of the hourglass has spread as badly as mine.<br>
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We not only have IPv4 + IPv6, we have MPLS over IP, IP over MPLS, IP over MPLS over IP over who knows what, and all sort of other variations.<br>
We have separated control panes from transport and hidden the whole notion of the waist of the hourglass.<br>
We have NATs, we have QoS, we layer inversion ...<br>
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If only there was a way to return to having a waist.<br>
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avri<br>
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