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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Tuesday 23 April 2013 10:04 PM,
      Peter H. Hellmonds wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">First of all,
            the link provided is not the link to the 1200 pages report,
            but to the 48 pages “executive summary”. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">As to the
            questions about the multistakeholder nature:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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                "Times New Roman"">        </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
            style="color:#1F497D">The composition of the Internet
            Enquete Commission was 17 parliamentarians and 17 members
            from different stakeholder groups, so this was a
            multistakeholder commission. </span></p>
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    <br>
    Peter,<br>
    <br>
     (Parminder) 17 members not from other stakeholder groups, but
    'experts' nominated by political parties in proportion of their
    strength in the parliament, right! For instance, no industry
    representative here. Are you now ready to consider inclusion of
    'experts' selected by politicians as enough to make things
    multi-stakeholder? If so, I can tell you that UN has endless number
    of committee consisting of such experts, doing very important work.
    <br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
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            style="color:#1F497D">The Internet Enquete Commission has
            employed a number of innovative online participation options
            giving citizens the chance to directly contribute and
            comment on the proceedings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Regarding
            Internet Governance:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The most
            relevant detailed report about International Issues and
            Internet Governance is here: </span><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/124/1712480.pdf">http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/124/1712480.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">The
            recommendation of this report is to keep the established
            governance framework and to protect the freedom and open
            character of the Internet. To assure the government is kept
            abreast of changes, there shall be a regular monitoring and
            reports. Multistakeholder participation in national and
            international governance issues shall be further
            strengthened. There shall be no new governmental or
            intergovernmental Internet Governance institutions as long
            as the existing institutions maintain the current way of an
            open and free Internet. The Commission is of the opinion
            that the current US oversight should yield to a broader
            supervisory structure for ICANN and IANA</span></p>
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    <br>
    (Parminder) Exactly the demand of most developing countries, not a
    penny more... Only, countries like India have gone further beyond
    generic statements and suggested what such a broad supervisory
    structure could look like. We, as in IT for Change, have tried to
    present some structural possibilities and trigger a debate here in
    the IGC. But coming from the Southern side, all that looks like so
    explosive, betrayal and so on.....  Now since a German nationally
    constituted 'multi-stakeholder' commission also calls for a new
    'supervisory structure' can we at least now debate the possible
    contours of one...<br>
    <br>
    parminder <br>
    <br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">and suggests
            more engagement by the German government and the EU. To
            enable that, German ministries should get expanded funding
            to enhance their support for multistakeholder participation.
            The IGF should get German funding through the trust fund
            managed by  UN DESA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">There is a lot
            more, but this summarizes some of the main points. Jeanette
            has already provided some background into the general
            working of the commission. I’m sure Wolfgang and Jeanette
            can shed some more light on the content of the Internet
            Governance debate. Throwing the text through an automatic
            translation engine might also help to access its contents
            for those who don’t understand sufficient German. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">-- Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                  lang="DE">Von:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"
                lang="DE"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] <b>Im
                  Auftrag von </b>parminder<br>
                <b>Gesendet:</b> 22 April 2013 07:18<br>
                <b>An:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
                <b>Betreff:</b> Re: [governance] The German Federal
                Internet Commission Report (Der Spiegel)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DE"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On Monday 22 April 2013 02:52 AM, Lee W
            McKnight wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">Very
                interesting material. <br>
                <br>
                Link to final report: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/125/1712550.pdf"
                  target="_blank">http://dipbt.bundestag.de/dip21/btd/17/125/1712550.pdf</a><br>
                <br>
                Perhaps IGC's own Jeanette Hoffman who participated,
                might summarize the 1200 pp full report, and suggest
                implications for global internet governance? : )<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/special-commission-calls-for-internet-commissioner-in-germany-a-895412.html"
            target="_blank">http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/special-commission-calls-for-internet-commissioner-in-germany-a-895412.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif""><br>
            <br>
            While one awaits further information, one thing is clear
            from the referred news item that the Commission strongly
            underscored the importance of cross cutting Internet-related
            public policy issues in asking the "German government to get
            more serious about Internet-related issues" and in seeking
            the setting up <b><i>a new committee of the parliament for
                Internet-related public policy issues</i></b> . To me,
            it closely parallels the Indian demand for the UN Committee
            on Internet-related Policies. The overall logic and
            justifications are very similar, especially with what we all
            recognise as an inherently global nature of the Internet.<br>
            <br>
            Will be interesting to know if the prosed German
            Parliamentary Committee will have similar levels of
            multistakeholder engagement as the India' proposed UN CIRP. 
            And I quote from the CIRP proposal so that people/ we can
            make a comparison. <br>
            <br>
            (quote from UN CIRP proposal begins)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p>It will ensure the participation of all relevant stakeholders
          by establishing four Advisory Groups, one each for civil
          society, the private sector, inter­governmental and
          international organizations, and the technical and academic
          community. The Advisory Groups will provide their inputs and
          recommendations to the CIRP . The meetings of CIRP and the
          advisory groups will be serviced by the UNCTAD Secretariat
          that also services the meetings of the Commission on Science
          and Technology for Development. The Internet Governance Forum
          will provide inputs to CIRP in the spirit of complementarity
          between the two. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">(ends)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p>With further elaboration in the Annexure to the CIRP proposal
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p><br>
          (quote begins)<o:p></o:p></p>
        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
          <p><b><i>Multi­stakeholder participation</i></b>: Recognizing
            the need to involve all stakeholders in Global Internet
            Governance in their respective roles, the CIRP shall ensure
            the participation of all stakeholders recognized in the
            Tunis Agenda. Four Advisory Groups ­ one each for Civil
            Society, the Private Sector, Inter­Governmental and
            International Organisations, and the Technical and Academic
            Community ­ will be established, to assist and advise the
            CIRP . These Groups would be self­ organized, as per agreed
            principles, to ensure transparency, representativity and
            inclusiveness. The Advisory Groups will meet annually in
            Geneva and in conjunction with any additional meetings of
            the CIRP , Their meetings will be held back ­to­ back with
            the meetings of the CIRP , so that they are able to provide
            their inputs and recommendations in a timely manner, to the
            CIRP .<o:p></o:p></p>
          <p><o:p> </o:p></p>
          <p><b><i>Links with the IGF</i></b>: Recognizing the value of
            the Internet Governance Forum as an open, unique forum for
            multi-stakeholder policy dialogue on Internet issues, the
            deliberations in the lGF along with any inputs, background
            information and analysis it may provide, will be taken as
            inputs for consideration of the CIRP . An improved and
            strengthened lGF that can serve as a purposeful body for
            policy consultations and provide meaningful policy inputs to
            the CIRP , will ensure a stronger and more effective
            complementarity between the CIRP and the IGF. <o:p></o:p></p>
          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New
            Roman","serif"">(ends)<br>
            <br>
            Parminder <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""><br>
              Lee<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
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                  on behalf of michael gurstein [<a
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                    href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>]<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, April 21, 2013 4:07 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [governance] The German Federal
                  Internet Commission Report (Der Spiegel)</span><span
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                <p class="MsoNormal">In Germany.  <o:p></o:p></p>
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href="http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/special-commission-calls-for-internet-commissioner-in-germany-a-895412.html"
                    target="_blank">http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/special-commission-calls-for-internet-commissioner-in-germany-a-895412.html</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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