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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Wednesday 24 April 2013 05:32 AM,
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:43 AM</div>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] Internet as a
commons/ public good</div>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>We recognise the Internet to be
a global network of networks comprised of computing
devices and processes, and an emergent and emerging
social reality. In that sense, it is an intricate
combination of hardware, software, protocols, and
human intentionality enabling new kinds of social
interactions and transactions, brought together by a
common set of design principles, and policies
established through due democratic processes. </b><b><span
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d">[Milton
L Mueller] assuming that historical accuracy
matters, and depending on what “policies” one is
referring to, I don’t think “democratic” process
was involved in the origin of the internet at all.
The IETF developers were meritocratic, not
democratic. </span></i></b></p>
<p style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d">IP
– have to agree with Milton. Tnere is no historic
democratic processes.</span></i></b></p>
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(Parminder) Agree. It should instead be '....policies, that should
be established by due democratic prcoess". BTW, thanks for both of
you for confirming that historically there is no due democratic
process :) <br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>The design principles and
policies that constitute its governance ensure its
stability, functionality and security, and aim at
preserving and enhancing the global commons and global
public good character of the Internet the combination
of which has made previous innovations possible.
Therefore, in the face of the growing danger for the
Internet experience to be reduced to closed or </b><b><span
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d">[Milton
L Mueller] yes, but they are also, and should be
also, aim at preserving and enhancing the private
good aspects of the Internet. As the success of
the internet rests on a creative combination of
both, why are we emphasizing only one aspect of
this? </span></i></b></p>
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(Parminder). <br>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d">IP.
It is not secure, and I believe its functionality
is somewhat basic. I’d go straight to the global
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(Parminder) Agree. <br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"><b>proprietary online spaces, we
urge that the preservation and enhancement of the
Internet's global commons and public good dimensions</b><b><span
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<p style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d">[Milton
L Mueller] what are these dimensions? Why not
specify them? Why not also recognize that we
should not interfere with the innovation and
creativity that has come from affording
entrepreneurs and individuals to experiment and
innovate with new private services? </span></i></b></p>
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(Parminder) Becuase we are not aiming at completeness of a
definition here, but making a core advocacy principle/ statement for
the Caucus stating which direction and side in the current
evolution of the Internet the caucus will like to weight on. And
isnt private property being over 'protected' already - which as the
last line says 'is the problem', See for instance the one global <a
href="www.oecd.org/dataoecd/40/21/48289796.pdf">'Principles on
Internet policy making' </a>that authoritatively exist today,
those developed by the OECD. The document was criticised by civil
society for its intellectual property (IP) focus The document lists
its policy objectives as "the protection of privacy,
security, children online, and intellectual property, as well as the
reinforcement of trust in the Internet
" . There is no mention of any egalitarian political economy
objective, which of course is understandable coming from a club of
the richest countries. IP is mentioned 15 times in the document and
commons/ public goods (and we are assuming some such character of
the Internet does exist) not once. <br>
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Also, we now have IETF seeking to issue an RFC focussing on the
market but not commons aspect of the Internet as primary. Even W3C
is coming up with an HTML extension standard specification that
caters to the demands of IP owner for greater IP protection.....<br>
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One simply thinks that more than enough is happening on the private/
property side and hardly anything on the commons/ public side. In
the circumstances, it is for a civil society group to step in as we
are trying to do to emphasize the commons/ public gods side of the
Internet and the need to protect and foster it. <br>
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I would also appeal to others who think that such a statement on
commons/ public goods nature of the Internet should be adopted by
the caucus as a basic advocacy principle, inter alia to preface our
submissions to various bodies, may chip in at this stage. Of course
also those who have different views are welcome to speak up. But let
us close it one way or the other. Thanks Riaz for bringing this back
to the group's attention. <br>
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parminder <br>
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<p style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class="MsoPlainText"><b>We
recognise the Internet to be a global network of
networks comprised of computing devices and processes,
and an emergent and emerging social reality. In that
sense, it is an intricate combination of hardware,
software, protocols, and human intentionality enabling
new kinds of social interactions and transactions,
brought together by a common set of design principles.
<b>The design principles and policies that constitute
its governance aim at preserving and enhancing the
global commons and global public good character of
the Internet the combination of which has made
previous innovations possible. Therefore, in the
face of the growing danger for the Internet
experience to be reduced to closed or </b></b><b>proprietary
online spaces, we urge the preservation and
enhancement of the Internet's global commons and
public good dimensions.</b></p>
<p style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0.5in" class="MsoPlainText"><b><i><span
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'; COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></span></i></b> </p>
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