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<DIV>works for me..</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=parminder@itforchange.net
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:05 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] Internet as a commons/ public
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On Wednesday 24 April 2013 07:54 AM, Ian Peter
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<DIV>I like new text as suggested by Parminder as well – but one quibble</DIV>
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<DIV>“due democratic processes”. That sounds to me like something governments
do without consultation.</DIV>
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<DIV>I would prefer multistakeholder processes. But as that means whatever
people want it to mean, and may not be acceptable to everyone. Perhaps
something like</DIV>
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<DIV>“through processes involving all stakeholder groups” might be a middle
ground.</DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What about "through democratic
processes involving all stakeholder groups".<BR><BR>parminder <BR><BR>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=jeremy@ciroap.org
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:08 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [governance] Internet as a commons/ public
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<DIV class=moz-cite-prefix>On 24/04/13 09:58, parminder wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE cite=mid:51773C2A.5080408@itforchange.net type="cite"><BR><FONT
face=Verdana>Jeremy<BR><BR>Sorry, saw your email after I sent my amendments
to Ian's text. But i think the amendments address all your concerns. We do
not elevate design principles to any transcedent moral value but such
principles 'should' be derived through due democratic processes. Also they
do not automatically get considered as enhancing commons/ public good
character of the Internet but 'must' aim at doing
so.</FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yes I agree, thanks Parminder.<BR><BR>
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