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    Parminder et al, subject to correction and disclaimers for over
    simplification etc... <br>
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    Thesi<b>s: The Bill is good for IG.</b><br>
    <br>
    (I am NOT the best person to make the case!!) <br>
    <br>
    It establishes a policy in legislation ensuring MS.<br>
    <br>
    It includes preservation as well as advancement - it incorporates
    the possibility of future change.<br>
    <br>
    Political economy:<br>
    <br>
    Enshrines MS for internet. Increases democracy.<br>
    <br>
    Civil society:<br>
    <br>
    For or tepid toward the bill<br>
    <br>
    <b>Thesis: The bill is not good for IG.</b><br>
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    Imprecision: <br>
    - reference to which ms models<br>
    - which ones are successful (as opposed to unsuccessful - implying
    selection)<br>
    - what is MS?<br>
    <br>
    Political Economy:<br>
    Changes developing countries are interested will be limited by US
    legislation - "negotiation" with Congress?<br>
    Limits change to to intrasystemic fora.<br>
    <br>
    To Civil Society<br>
    If qualitative change is sufficient in this form, would alternate
    but similarly competent (with MS) arrangements not be suitable.<br>
    <br>
    Riaz<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013/04/18 09:01 AM, parminder
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Thursday 18 April 2013 12:24 AM,
        michael gurstein wrote:<br>
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              but can anyone point to an authoritative
              definition/description of what exactly is meant by "the
              successful multistakeholder model that governs the
              Internet" i.e. what exactly was the US Congress voting
              unanimously to "preserve and advance".</span></p>
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      for instance, whether NTIA's exclusive exercising of the root zone
      authorisation function is to be considered as a part of the
      'successful multistakeholder (MS) model' or not... And if it is
      indeed MS, then if <i>exactly</i> the same function is tranferred
      to a multinational committee (without changing anything else about
      ICANN plus system at all) why would that not still continue to be
      called as a MS system, and not a movement from MSism to government
      control?<br>
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      And whether OECD's inter governmental Council and its
      inter-governmental Committee on Information, Communication and
      Computer Policy doing considerable (global) Internet policy work,
      in consultation with other stakeholders, but only giving them an
      advisory capacity, should be considered as an aspect of the
      'successful MS model or not. If so, whether a similar UN based
      inter-gov committee with similar (or better) advisory status based
      relationships with other stakeholders will continue to be called
      as a MS system, or would that somehow, magically, become
      classified as a move towards government control? <br>
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      The above two are the simple and straight forward demands of most
      developing countries (leave out a few authoritarian  ones whose
      demand we dont have to consider/ concede) . Both these demands <i>do

        not at all change the degree of MSism in the present global IG
        architecture </i>(I am happy to be challenged on this) .
      However, evidently this new US law is basically aimed at resisting
      these democratic demands of developing countries, and the sad part
      is that most of the global civil society seems to be ready to get
      hoodwinked by such obviously less than honest professions of MSism
      and fight against governemnt control over the Internet. It is just
      a fight for preserving US control (gov plus business) over the
      global Internet - that is all what it is. And CS should resist it,
      seeking greater democratisation..<br>
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      parminder <br>
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Curran<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:44 AM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] US House Bill to
                  Affirm the Policy of the United States Regarding
                  Internet Governance<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:56 PM, Jeremy
                Malcolm <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:jeremy@ciroap.org">jeremy@ciroap.org</a>>

                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://energycommerce.house.gov/markup/markup-bill-affirm-policy-united-states-regarding-internet-governance">http://energycommerce.house.gov/markup/markup-bill-affirm-policy-united-states-regarding-internet-governance</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">...<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">"It is the policy of the
                          United States to promote a global Internet
                          free from government control and to preserve
                          and advance the successful multistakeholder
                          model that governs the Internet."<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">This bill was just approved by the
              House Committee on Energy and Commerce; it it is now <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">H.R. 1580, a bill to affirm the policy
              of the United States regarding Internet governance.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF00/20130417/100723/BILLS-113pih-InternetFreedom.pdf">http://docs.house.gov/meetings/IF/IF00/20130417/100723/BILLS-113pih-InternetFreedom.pdf</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">The policy text has been changed
                    to only the following:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">    "It is the policy of the
                    United States to preserve and advance the successful
                    multistakeholder<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">     model that governs the
                    Internet."<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Given that it has bipartisan support,
              it is likely to move fairly quickly to adoption.  The
              actual net<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">effect of such a statement becoming
              official USG policy is subject to interpretation, but it
              would <o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">definitely make it difficult for the
              USG to back away from the "multistakeholder model" at any<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">point in the future.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">FYI,<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">/John<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Disclaimers: My views alone.  No
              congress critters were harmed in the production of this
              email.<o:p></o:p></p>
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