<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span></span></div><div><span>Tried to find out exactly what internet2 does and what its membership is, before asking all these questions?</span><br><span></span><br><span>No?  I thought not .. </span><a href="http://www.internet2.edu/membership/index.cfm">http://www.internet2.edu/membership/index.cfm</a><br><span></span><br><span>--srs (iPad)</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 29-Mar-2013, at 21:48, parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>> wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Friday 29 March 2013 08:03 PM, McTim wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><snip></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>you are incorrect.  The folk who are involved in Internet2, amongst</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>other REN projects are EXACTLY those people that the FP would include.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>So you are saying that members of Internet2 fit the definition of technical (and academic) community that the focal point gave us which is "community of organizations and individuals who are involved in the day-to-day operational management of the Internet and who work within this community" ? You think that Internet2 is involved in 'day to say operational management of the Internet'?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>And that therefore Internet2 members could have been considered as nominees from the technical and academic community by the focal point for the WG on EC?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Strange that they qualify for OECD body as technical community but not for</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>the UN system.....</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Evidently, the definition of even the technical community part of the</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>'technical and academic community' employed by the Focal point is erronoeus,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>what to say about the 'academic community' part which seem to have simply</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>been banished.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>but they haven't been, you are simply mistaken.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>How am I mistaken? Who is the academic community member in the final list? Like someone not closely associated with ISOC and not running a country tld whereby one qualifies through the above definition of being engaged in 'day to day operational management of the Internet'?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>parminder</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>____________________________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To be removed from the list, visit:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>    <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing">ht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