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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I should also point out that since Ms. Bommalaer's selection process was based at least in part on clearly incorrect information and related assumptions (for which no apology or retraction has yet been received), she herself should be withdrawing the results forwarded to the Chair CTSD and re-doing the process, most desireably based on rather more explicit and transparent procedures and criteria.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> michael gurstein [mailto:gurstein@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2013 8:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'governance@lists.igcaucus.org'; 'William Drake'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [governance] COMMENTS SOUGHT: draft letter to ISOC on selection of T&A nominees for CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>You have willfully ignored my comments concerning the issues below. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Yes, for some purposes and specifically those concerning my normative positions in support of achieving the widest possible use of the Internet and particularly by otherwise marginalized or excluded populations I consider myself part of Civil Society and have widely presented myself as such. Yes, I think that the Internet SHOULD be made accessible and usable by all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>For other purposes specifically those concerning my professional/academic/research activities in support of realizing the widest possible use of the internet and particularly by otherwise marginalized or excluded populations I consider myself a member of the wider technical and academic community also professionally concerned with these issues. Yes, I think that the Internet CAN be made accessible and usable by all.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>My comments to the Chair CSTD were in the context of my latter role and specifically where, in response to my request to be considered as a member of the WG EC on behalf of the T/A I was provided with a range of definitions and criteria concerning membership within that grouping none of which were presented as having any basis apart from "understandings" based on "checking" with "colleagues especially those who participated in the WSIS processes". <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Please note also that I have no interest in attempting to be a member of a group for which I am not appropriately qualified but nor am I willing to be arbitrarily excluded from a group exercising a public responsibility whose covenant is self-defined and non-transparently exclusionary. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Further I would have no interest in pursuing my "non-selection" in a process for which the procedures and criteria were clear, transparent and even-handedly applied. Since I have still not received an answer to the question I posed to Ms. Bommelaer several days ago concerning the specific procedures employed in this nomination process and Ms. Bommelaer's reply (notably and discourteously to Ms. Esterhuysen rather to myself) concerning these matters i.e. "<i>The names put forward were subject to considerable discussion as well as oral dialogue with many individuals from Civil Society and the Business community (including their focal points). The criteria used were shared with all interested individuals as well as with the UN"</i> is clearly insufficiently transparent in the circumstances, I see no recourse but to make an appropriate representation directly to the Chair CTSD.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In the further interests of transparency I am attaching a very lightly edited set of the correspondence specifically concerned with the selection process to which Ms. Bommalaer refers in her message to the IGC list.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>M<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 8:02 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'bommelaer@isoc.org'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Hello Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>...<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I understand that you are the focal point for the Technical and Academic component of nominations for the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have an interest in presenting myself for nomination within the Academic component -- as an academic researcher in Community Informatics -- which has a specific concern for the grassroots/community uses of ICTs.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>As I believe you know, I have been quite active in the Internet Governance Caucus (and am going to be one of the speakers on behalf of Civil Society at the upcoming WSIS+10 review) but in this instance I would look to wear my most prominent "hat", and the one that I use for my day job which is that of an academic/researcher and it is that background, experience and perspective that I would look to bring to the proposed Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Perhaps you could let me know what the procedures and deadlines are for nomination/self-nomination/endorsement etc. for this position. Also, if you are going to be at the WSIS+10 review and you think it worthwhile perhaps we could have a chat to discuss this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>With best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 7:28 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Constance Bommelaer'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: Hello Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I don't think that I heard back from you re: the process that should be followed concerning presentation of myself as an "academic" candidate. I have a number of people/groups waiting to send endorsements and I'm not sure who they should be sent to, if there is format that you prefer, deadlines and so on.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I'm going to be quite busy for the next couple of weeks here in Europe I have a couple of academic events in the UK after this one so if I could hear back from you concerning the above asap that would be very useful.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Tks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Constance Bommelaer [<a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 1:12 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: michael gurstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: Hello Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have checked with other colleagues especially those who participated in the WSIS processes. I understand that "the academic and technical communities" mentioned in the TAIS refers to the scientists who developed the Internet and the technical organizations/people who run it, and not to social scientists and the like.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Would you consider approaching Anriette Esterhuysen who I believe is coordinating the Civil Society group?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 2:12 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: Constance Bommelaer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: Hello Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I could be wrong but I would have thought that the concern was to include the range of research expertise that has been involved in both the development and implementation of the Internet and I and a very large range of colleagues have worked in these areas from almost the very beginnings of Internet development.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Certainly my research/academic colleagues in this area would see themselves as being in a position to make a positive contribution based on their research and academic activities and leaving the pursuit of more normative elements in these areas to where it properly belongs in Civil Society. So unless there is a formal decision that would restrict this I would very much prefer to have my candidacy reviewed in this category.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Constance Bommelaer [<a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 11:26 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: michael gurstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: your bio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Can you please send me your biography. I am currently compiling the list of interested individuals for the CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation. I may end up with more candidates than seats but I am collecting expressions of interest at this stage.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thank you and best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>--<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Constance Bommelaer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Director, Public Policy<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The Internet Society<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><a href="http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 10:01 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'Constance Bommelaer'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: your bio<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I'll send you a brief bio and a full (if slightly out of date) academic resume.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best and thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>M<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>---------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>On 3/5/13 9:26 AM, michael gurstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I'm just enquiring whether you have sufficient information from me to <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> proceed with your work as the focal point in the technical/academic <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> grouping.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> I'm also interested to know what your procedures will be with respect <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> to forwarding the names that have been brought forward. As you <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> perhaps know the IGC has had a formal nomcom process which has now <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> reported and I was wondering if you were undertaking a counterpart process?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>> Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: Constance Bommelaer [<a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 2:31 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: michael gurstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: Hi Constance: Re: ECWG<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thank you for your note.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I am currently compiling the list of expressions of interest I have received.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The criteria used are:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Gender and geographic balance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Familiarity with the WSIS process<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Ability to travel (no funding available)<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Willingness and ability to dedicate some time to the working group<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>- Representing the technical and academic communities<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I will complete the process on Friday and get back to you then.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">bommelaer@isoc.org</a> [<a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 9:32 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: michael gurstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Dear Michael, <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thank you four your interest in the CSTD Working Group on Enhanced Cooperation nomination process. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I have sent to the UN the names of all the individuals who have expressed an interest. However, I have not personally recommended your nomination as I felt other individuals met better the criteria.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>The Chair of the CSTD will nominate the members of the Working Group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks again for your interest and best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Constance Bommelaer <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:02 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'bommelaer@isoc.org'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thank you for getting back Constance.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In the interests of transparency would it be possible to indicate "the criteria" that you mention (in your note) as the basis on which your recommendation was made and also the names of those who you recommended to the Chair as more closely meeting those criteria. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>My colleagues I'm sure, will have an interest in this for future such opportunities.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Tks,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:12 PM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'bommelaer@isoc.org'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I haven't heard back from you and as the process is, I believe, moving forward on the UN side I do want to make sure that my 'nomination' was considered appropriately and within what I assume are the applicable procedures i.e. those that cover the selection from the various stakeholder groups to the MAG as made explicit in the report of the CSTD WG on Improvements to the IGF.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Transparency and accountability are, I'm sure we agree, necessary pre-conditions to an effective multi-stakeholder process hence my concern to ensure that this is realized in this instance as in others.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">bommelaer@isoc.org</a> [<a href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:18 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: michael gurstein<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>That is not what I said. All categories of stakeholders play an important role in developing accessibility to the Internet, the Civil Society, the Business community and the technical and academic community. Hence the importance of multi-stakeholderism. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>My interpretation of the technical and academic community includes individuals who have technically built the Internet.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>In addition, your leading and representation role within the Civil Society including at the WSIS+10 conference last February leads to some confusion. Did you also express an interest to represent the Civil Society in this process?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Constance<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: michael gurstein [<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">mailto:gurstein@gmail.com</a>] <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 8:48 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: 'bommelaer@isoc.org'<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: RE: CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Constance,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Thanks for the clarification and I understand your definition of "technically built the Internet", however, that isn't what was said nor based on your earlier comments is it I believe, a formal definition provided from the UN CTSD.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Certainly, I have had a leading role in certain activities of Civil Society including WSIS +10, but similarly leading actors from the technical community have also had a representative role in Civil Society from time to time (Avri Doria comes immediately to mind) and as you know the technical community has and continues to play an extremely active role in the (civil society) Internet Governance Caucus.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>I think we must agree that the lines are somewhat fuzzy here. Further, at least on your initial criteria of "contributing to the building of the Internet" (which I think, at this time of a degree of technical "maturity" of the Internet, is perhaps an even more appropriate one), I would anticipate being highly commendable as a representative of the "technical/academic" community including to the WG on EC. In that context I would foresee speaking as an academic/researcher in the area of user issues concerning the Internet including making the Internet more accessible and particularly to those at the margins and in LDC's.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>But perhaps we have now exhausted this conversation, and since I don't foresee us reaching consensus on this perhaps, with your permission, we could send this correspondence to the Chair of the CTSD to adjudicate on the matter of the definition of what is meant by the "technical and academic" stakeholder group.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Best,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Mike<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>From: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of William Drake<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:41 AM<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; parminder<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Subject: Re: [governance] COMMENTS SOUGHT: draft letter to ISOC on selection of T&A nominees for CSTD WG on EC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Hi Parminder<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Earlier, one of our members wrote to the head of the CSTD and asked that he not accept nominations from the T (no A) C stakeholder group until he's satisfied with their decision not to select him as their rep. And so on…nothing adversarial? <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoPlainText>Bill<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>