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    <font size="+1">Hi all.. I am comp<font size="+1">letely<font
          size="+1"> swamped with work.. so <font size="+1">this is
            quick.<br>
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            <font size="+1">1) I am not against the idea of setting up a
              'joint mec<font size="+1">ha<font size="+1">nism<font
                    size="+1">' of some kin<font size="+1">d for CS to
                      do selections, but at the s<font size="+1">ame
                        time I think we would not being too
                        bureaucratic.<br>
                        <br>
                        <font size="+1">2) <font size="+1">As for other
                            non-governmental groups and how t<font
                              size="+1">h</font>ey identify their
                            representatives, <font size="+1">I would
                              suggest we ask for transparency and leave
                              it at that. We <font size="+1">know that
                                our own processes are imperfect and I
                                don't think that finger pointing at any
                                other group will <font size="+1">help.
                                  Not to mention that there is a lot of
                                  room for improvement in how
                                  governments select their repres<font
                                    size="+1">entatives. And they are
                                    SUCH AN IMPORTANT stakeholder group.
                                    If we are going to start reviewing<font
                                      size="+1"> selection proces<font
                                        size="+1">ses why only look at
                                        non-g<font size="+1">ov
                                          stakeholders.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <font size="+1">3) I personal<font
                                              size="+1">ly be<font
                                                size="+1">lieve that the
                                                technical community is
                                                an important stakeholder
                                                group in <font
                                                  size="+1">IG that does
                                                  deserve <font
                                                    size="+1">recognition
                                                    and representation.
                                                    I would agree that
                                                    no one body should
                                                    dominate <font
                                                      size="+1">how <font
                                                        size="+1">representation
                                                        is <font
                                                          size="+1">identified,
                                                          but that <font
                                                          size="+1">also
                                                          applies to CS
                                                          and Business
                                                          and it is in<font
                                                          size="+1">deed
                                                          something that<font
                                                          size="+1"> I<font
                                                          size="+1">GC <font
                                                          size="+1">should
                                                          support.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1">4)
                                                          My concern
                                                          (and I wrote
                                                          about this at
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1">len<font
                                                          size="+1">g<font
                                                          size="+1">th
                                                          during the
                                                          early stages
                                                          of the CSTD WG
                                                          on IGF
                                                          improvements)
                                                          is that CS had
                                                          to share our
                                                          slots with the
                                                          academic
                                                          community. <font
                                                          size="+1">I
                                                          know this is
                                                          controvers<font
                                                          size="+1">ial,
                                                          and <font
                                                          size="+1">in
                                                          Paris <font
                                                          size="+1">some
                                                          academic CS<font
                                                          size="+1">
                                                          participants
                                                          challenged me
                                                          on my
                                                          position. I
                                                          respect that
                                                          some of the
                                                          most active
                                                          and dynamic
                                                          individuals in
                                                          the IG CS
                                                          space are <font
                                                          size="+1">academics,
                                                          but:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1"><font
                                                          size="+1">- CS
                                                          is so diverse<font
                                                          size="+1"> <font
                                                          size="+1">that
                                                          we should be
                                                          having as many<font
                                                          size="+1">
                                                          slots as
                                                          possible for
                                                          CS
                                                          organisations
                                                          to <font
                                                          size="+1">widen
                                                          representation<font
                                                          size="+1"> and
                                                          ideas<br>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1">- <font
                                                          size="+1">The
                                                          non-technica<font
                                                          size="+1">l
                                                          academ<font
                                                          size="+1">ic <font
                                                          size="+1">input
                                                          into IG is
                                                          similarly so
                                                          vi<font
                                                          size="+1">tal
                                                          (<font
                                                          size="+1">particularly
                                                          in thinking of
                                                          social impac<font
                                                          size="+1">ts
                                                          of the
                                                          internet in
                                                          the future)
                                                          that it should
                                                          be recognised
                                                          as a <font
                                                          size="+1">stakeholder
                                                          group i<font
                                                          size="+1">n
                                                          its own right.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1">My
                                                          view has
                                                          always been
                                                          therefore,
                                                          even if it
                                                          takes a Gener<font
                                                          size="+1">al
                                                          Assembly r<font
                                                          size="+1">esolution<font
                                                          size="+1">,
                                                          that either
                                                          (a) CS are giv<font
                                                          size="+1">en
                                                          more slots
                                                          than other
                                                          non-governmental
                                                          stakeholder
                                                          groups in
                                                          recognition of
                                                          the fact that
                                                          we include
                                                          non-tech
                                                          academics or
                                                          (b) that the <font
                                                          size="+1">non-tech
                                                          academic
                                                          community be
                                                          recognised as
                                                          an important
                                                          stakeholder gr<font
                                                          size="+1">oup
                                                          in its own
                                                          right<font
                                                          size="+1">.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <font
                                                          size="+1">Anriette<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/03/2013 13:10, Baudouin Schombe
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAPcSPKU2+vReLg05s71WfWOEi8-ezwY-SOj2bkEuzU_1JhpbEg@mail.gmail.com"
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      <pre wrap="">I think   Nnenna proposal deserves to be taken into account. we should
not reinvent the wheel but improve the approach that was positive at a
time given.

Baudouin

2013/3/15, Nnenna <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nne75@yahoo.com"><nne75@yahoo.com></a>:
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        <pre wrap="">Quoting Norbert:

 >
Civil society definitely needs to do an important bit of homework in
this area.

Thomas Lowenhaupt suggested a while back to set up some kind of joint
board of the various leading civil society meta-organizations which
would be able to carry out such selection tasks in a way that would
avoid the problem of IGC running a full-fledged NomCom process only to
have the result partly or (as happened in the case of the CSTD WG)
almost totally ignored at the next step of the selection process.

I would suggest that it is time to revisit this idea, and also think
about whether there are other possible solutions to this problem.
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In the beginning days of WSIS PrepComs, I recall we had a "Working Methods"
caucus/group.

That was 10 years ago, and yes, a long time.  But for those who are
interested in process..

This may  be a good time to do this again.




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 From: Norbert Bollow <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch"><nb@bollow.ch></a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>
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Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [governance] CSTD WG on Enhanced Cooperation : Update

Parminder <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a> wrote:

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the relevant parts from the report of the CSTD Working Group on
Improvements to the IGF.

(quote begins)
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          <pre wrap="">        (b) Stakeholder groups should identify and publicize the
process that works best for their own culture and methods of
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