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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1. Right, and sometimes bilateral agreements between two powers can be much more effective in a realpolitik sense to achieve desired objectives and are much easier to negotiate and implement than any kind of global agreement, which usually would take a decade or two to negotiate and would be watered down so much that the initiators would see nothing left of their original intent.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Peter </span><span lang=DE style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span></b><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Nick Ashton-Hart<br><b>Gesendet:</b> 12 March 2013 22:17<br><b>An:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; michael gurstein<br><b>Cc:</b> Peter H. Hellmonds<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [governance] China's next-generation internet is a world-beater - tech - 10 March 2013 - New Scientist<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>See below<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my one of my handheld thingies, please excuse linguistic mangling.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 12 Mar 2013, at 17:30, michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What does occur to me from both of these however, is that they (together) clearly indicate the need for some sort of global agreements concerning the overall governance (development/deployment) of the Internet (including issues of cybersecurity and content flow) if it is to continue to operate in an effective and inclusive manner in the interests of us all…</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are plenty of rules already with respect to the behaviour we are seeing, and they are rules to which China is a party. For example, China has obligations at the WTO not to interfere with advertising, yet, they block ad-bearing services from outside in order to protect equivalent services (including ad-bearing services mind you) that are homegrown. There are also human rights agreements, again to which China is a party I understand, which obligate it not to do many of the things it is doing to its citizens.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are also talks going on now in trade that would protect the flow of information, and quite likely the Internet as a platform, too.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This idea that agreements need to be made in order to prevent certain states from doing one thing or another is all very nice - but just because a country signs an agreement doesn't mean it will implement its provisions.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></body></html>