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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Monday 11 March 2013 04:31 AM,
      Robert Guerra wrote:<br>
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      type="cite">12 days notice for the international community to put
      together proposals for a - if not the - leading Internet
      Governance meeting is very, very short notice.  <br>
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    I fully agree. I dont understand what is the hurry when the next
    meeting of MAG is more than 2 months away. People take time to come
    up with ideas, discuss and pass them internally in their
    organisations, and perhaps with partners and networks....<br>
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      <div>At the recent consultation in Paris I was surprised to be the
        only one who raised the issue that it was too short a timeline.
        Utterly surprised others didn't raise the issue.</div>
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      <div>I sincerely hope that the MAG and IGF secretariat will
        revisit what is, in effect, a deadline that makes it effectively
        impossible for new comers to know about the call for workshop
        proposals and submit one in time.</div>
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    Although they have a different deadline for newcomers.... which is
    all a very twisted unnecessarily complex logic , the purpose of
    which is not too clear.<br>
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    Perhaps MAG members here can help us understand this.<br>
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    parminder <br>
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      <div>regards</div>
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      <div>Robert</div>
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                        R. Guerra</div>
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                        after-white-space; ">Phone/Cell: +1 202-905-2081</div>
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                        after-white-space; ">Twitter: <a
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                        Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:rguerra@privaterra.org">rguerra@privaterra.org</a></div>
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          <div>On 2013-03-10, at 7:36 AM, William Drake wrote:</div>
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              <div>It just occurred to me I've not seen this mentioned
                on the gov list.  Many people have just 12 days to
                decide if they want to organize a workshop in Bali.</div>
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              <div>Bill</div>
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                <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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                      color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>From: </b></span><span
                      style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">William
                      Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>><br>
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                      color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span
                      style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re:
                        [NCSG-Discuss] IGF 2013 Preliminary Call for
                        Workshops Proposals</b><br>
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                      style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;
                      color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>Date: </b></span><span
                      style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">March
                      10, 2013 12:31:24 PM GMT+01:00<br>
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                      color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"><b>To: </b></span><span
                      style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Robin
                      Gross <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG">robin@IPJUSTICE.ORG</a>><br>
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                        href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br>
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                    Robin
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                    <div>Thanks for circulating this.  Getting the CFP
                      to even this level of clarity required some
                      insistence by a couple of us civil society types
                      on the MAG, but it may still require more reading
                      between the lines and inference than is ideal.  So
                      just to make sure it's clear: people who organized
                      workshops in the past two years need to be aware
                      that they must submit a preliminary proposal by 22
                      March and then be invited by the MAG in order to
                      submit a full proposal by 30 April.  If they don't
                      do the former, they will not be allowed to do the
                      latter, and if the former's approved, they can't
                      change the concept much post hoc.  These
                      restrictions do not apply to people who've not
                      organized events in the past two years.
                       Personally, I don't see how this new policy is
                      value-adding and think it could cause confusion
                      and/or consternation down the line, but hopefully
                      everyone effected will get the memo and be able to
                      decide within the next twelve days whether they
                      might want and be able to organize a workshop in
                      late October.  In a related vein, please recall
                      the MAG's prior decision that a workshop organizer
                      from the previous year must post to the IGF
                      website a report on their event in order to
                      qualify to organize something the following year.
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                    <div>Best,</div>
                    <div><br>
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                    <div>Bill</div>
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                        <div>On Mar 9, 2013, at 8:09 PM, Robin Gross
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                                    IGF has issued a preliminary call
                                    for workshop proposals with a fast
                                    approaching deadline of 22 March
                                    2013!</div>
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                                            <div> The Multistakeholder
                                              Advisory Group (MAG) in
                                              its meeting on 1 March
                                              2013 agreed to modify the
                                              procedure for the
                                              selection of workshops. </div>
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                                            <div>They advised that a
                                              preliminary call for
                                              workshop proposals be
                                              issued. Workshop
                                              proponents should include
                                              a concise description of
                                              the thematic area of
                                              interest and other
                                              pertinent information in
                                              their submissions. The
                                              proposals could focus on
                                              the priority themes
                                              identified by the open
                                              consultations/MAG meetings
                                              or could also introduce
                                              other themes. (These can
                                              be found in the annex of
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                                                summary report:</a>.)</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div>The MAG recommended
                                              that a two track process
                                              be followed:</div>
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                                              <li style="margin:0px 0px
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                                                organizers of workshops
                                                 in <strong>2011 or 2012</strong> IGF
                                                meeting the submission
                                                of a preliminary
                                                proposal by <strong>22
                                                  March 2013 </strong>is
                                                mandatory. After this
                                                deadline the MAG will go
                                                through and assess the
                                                preliminary proposals.
                                                The MAG through the
                                                Secretariat will then
                                                invite selected workshop
                                                proponents to submit
                                                full and complete
                                                workshop proposals by <strong>30
                                                  April 2013 </strong>based
                                                on these preliminary
                                                proposals. Workshop
                                                proponents with similar
                                                proposals may be asked
                                                to work together to
                                                develop a single
                                                fully-fledged proposal.
                                                Workshop proponents
                                                cannot significantly
                                                change the topic of an
                                                approved proposal. <br>
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                                                order to encourage
                                                workshop organizers,
                                                first time proposers are
                                                encouraged to but do not
                                                need to submit
                                                preliminary workshop
                                                proposals. They do
                                                however have to submit a
                                                full and complete
                                                workshop proposal by <strong>30
                                                  April 2013</strong>.
                                                The Secretariat stands
                                                ready to assist new
                                                comers in any way.</li>
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                                            <div>As a result of the
                                              above MAG recommendations
                                              the IGF Secretariat is
                                              issuing a preliminary call
                                              for workshop proposals to
                                              which the deadline will
                                              be <strong>22 March 2013</strong>.</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div> An online form will be
                                              available on <strong>15
                                                March 2013 </strong>on
                                              the IGF website for
                                              submissions.</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div>The template will be as
                                              follows:</div>
                                            <div> </div>
                                            <div>1.<span
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                                              </span>Workshop working
                                              title:</div>
                                            <div>2.<span
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                                              of broader thematic area
                                              of interest:</div>
                                            <div>3.<span
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                                              </span>Concise description
                                              of specific issues to be
                                              addressed:</div>
                                            <div>4.<span
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                                              </span>Indication of
                                              workshop format:</div>
                                            <div
                                              style="margin-left:40px">a.<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Panel*</div>
                                            <div
                                              style="margin-left:40px">b.<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Roundtable</div>
                                            <div
                                              style="margin-left:40px">c.<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Free discussion (with one or two
                                              moderators)</div>
                                            <div
                                              style="margin-left:40px">d.<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span> Other (please describe)</div>
                                            <div>5.<span
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                                              </span>Name of contact
                                              person:**</div>
                                            <div>6.<span
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                                              </span>Institution:</div>
                                            <div>7.<span
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                                            <div>* Names of speakers are
                                              not required at this
                                              stage. </div>
                                            <div>* *New workshop
                                              organizers are encouraged.</div>
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