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<p>Look up rentier capitalism. <br>
<br>
Then look up, for example, how words assume meaning based on context,
such as 'boy' applied to a male child versus boy applied to an
African American man. <br>
<br>
thanks <br>
--srs (htc one x)<br>
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<p>On 4 March 2013 12:21:24 PM "michael gurstein" <gurstein@gmail.com>
wrote:</p>
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class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>rentier
French [rɑ̃tje] n<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>a.
a person whose income consists primarily of fixed unearned amounts,
such as rent or bond interest<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rentiers">http://www.thefreedictionary.com/rentiers</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>"Perjorative"?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>M<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=MsoNormal><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div
style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in
0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org
[mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Suresh Ramasubramanian<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 04, 2013 3:44
AM<br><b>To:</b> Diego Rafael Canabarro<br><b>Cc:</b>
governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro;
riaz.tayob@gmail.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] Fwd: Why do US
and EU trade negotiators hate the Berne Copyright Limitations and
Exceptions? | Knowledge Ecology
International<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are
people who bridge the gap effectively. Which involves not using
pejorative terms (rentier for instance) to describe those you disagree
with. That, and working to find common ground where you can agree
to some extent to those whose views differ from yours. So,
not demonizing the opposition is definitely a good place to
start.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The
other thing I have found is that people who implement anything in
practice and have their opinions tempered by that experience are much
more reliable sources of knowledge, and more inclined to avoid blindly
ideological positions, than theorists, especially those with a
political bent.<br><br>--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 04-Mar-2013, at
8:50, Diego Rafael Canabarro <<a
href="mailto:diegocanabarro@gmail.com">diegocanabarro@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>How to disentangle
both?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at
1:55 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p>A big difference between the two. Ideology
is driven by a relatively blind belief system. Philosophy takes more
facts into account, even if they conflict with ideology. <br><br>--srs
(htc one x)<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>On 21 February 2013 12:04:10 PM
Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On
the contrary, policy is driven by philosophy or
ideology.<br><br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 21, 2013, at
5:54 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>A perception of what different groups or individuals
feel is the global public interest, more
like?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>Ideology and policy, especially on the Internet, are a
very bad mix. And I doubt you will get consensus on what constitutes
global public interest.<br><br>--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 21-Feb-2013, at
11:15, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a
href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>It is interesting when advocacy in relation to global
public interest is labelled as left/South.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>Civil society is seen as a watchdog and where it is
told to stop speaking or expressing its views because they are
"left" then there is a danger of being innoculated from
subtle threats that affect what we hold dear, an open and free
Internet.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><br><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 21, 2013, at
1:14 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>I dont dispute that. My sole point is that
there's little or no connection from these to internet governance, and
there are plenty of other fora where the rest of it gets extensively
discussed - quite a few exclusively from a "south" /
"left" etc perspective as well, if that's a criterion that
some seek.<br><br>--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 21-Feb-2013, at
4:04, Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro <<a
href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>In essence, we live in a vast interconnected world and
with something like the Internet, there are a plethora of issues that
stem from the way that Internet is structured and the various
regulatory mechanisms, diverse jurisdictional treatment
etc.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>From
a global public interest, it is in the interest of civil society to she
informed of how various shifts in policies, laws, market behaviour,
Internet architecture can affect the ordinary
user.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><br>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Feb 21, 2013, at
8:59 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=MsoNormal>The "application to cyberspace" part seems to
be missing in that the frameworks being discussed are not specific to
online copyright theft. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Even
there, the wgig report does seem to over stretch the igov definition to
a considerable extent.<br><br>--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 21-Feb-2013, at
0:42, "Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro" <<a
href="mailto:salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com"
target="_blank">salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
<<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net"
target="_blank">suresh@hserus.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p
class=MsoNormal>Hi, is there an internet governance angle to this that
I somehow missed?<br><br>--srs (iPad)<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>Th WGIG 2005 Report
identified Intellectual Property as an Internet Governance thematic
area. See page 7:<br><br><span style='background:yellow'>"<b>23.
Intellectual property rights (IPR)</b><br><b>Application of
intellectual property rights to cyberspace.</b><br>• While there is
agreement on the need for balance between the rights of holders and the
rights of users, there are different views on the precise nature of the
balance that will be most beneficial to all stakeholders, and whether
the current IPR system is adequate to address the new issues posed by
cyberspace. On the one hand, intellectual property rights holders are
concerned about the high number of infringements, such as digital
piracy, and the technologies developed to circumvent protective
measures to prevent such infringements; on the other hand, users are
concerned about market oligopolies, the impediments to access and use
of digital content and the perceived
unbalanced."</span><br><br> Intellectual Property touches
virtually every layer of the Information Infrastructure and layer of
Internet Architecture, consider Verisign's Patent Application for
Domain Name Transfers and other issues stemming from Digital Rights
Management Systems and the use of Piracy Filters.<br><br>For human
rights advocates, the use of piracy filters can just as easily be used
to filter content arbitrarily and where do you draw the line. The
criminalization of things like breaking digital locks on software
etc.<br><br>The threats with the TPP is that there is a massive
transition from being mere Traffic providers to policing the internet.
The Berne Convention of course is one of the long standing
international legal instruments that are widely accepted globally so by
extension it is relevant.<br><br>There are many links that you can go
to see the link between IP and the Internet and here are just
three:<br><br><a
href="http://www.cisco.com/web/about/gov/issues/ip_rights.html"
target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/web/about/gov/issues/ip_rights.html</a>
<br><a
href="https://www.eff.org/search/site/Trans%20Pacific%20partnership"
target="_blank">https://www.eff.org/search/site/Trans%20Pacific%20partnership</a><br><a
href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121011_perspective_on_verisign_patent_application_on_domain_transfers/"
target="_blank">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121011_perspective_on_verisign_patent_application_on_domain_transfers/</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 20-Feb-2013, at 18:57, <a
href="mailto:riaz.tayob@gmail.com"
target="_blank">riaz.tayob@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br><br>> Using a
treaty for the blind to push 3 strikes..<br>><br>>> <a
href="http://keionline.org/node/1655"
target="_blank">http://keionline.org/node/1655</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p
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