<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:58 AM, Norbert Bollow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>></span> wrote:<br><div><br></div><div><snip></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
that would be the right thing to do, the idea of splitting the list is<br>
too incompatible with<br>
the way in which this Internet Governance Caucus has been constituted...<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>agreed</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
> it should be along the<br>
> lines of "Governance of the Internet" and "Governance of things people do on<br>
> the Internet".<br>
<br>
Hmm... I think that I understand roughly what you mean with this (if I<br>
understand you<br>
right, the division that you're proposing is very similar to what I<br>
proposed, just using<br>
different concepts to try to draw a line).<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
However it seems to me that "Governance of the Internet" vs.<br>
"Governance of things<br>
people do on the Internet" could also be interpreted differently, and<br>
I think that it would<br>
be hard to argue that that would be an invalid interpretation:<br>
<br>
Specifically, "things people do on the Internet" could be interpreted<br>
so that "chat on<br>
facebook" would be an example of it. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">"Throwing people out of<br>
chatrooms" if they are<br>
somehow determined to be middle-aged men pretending to be teenage girls would be<br>
"Governance of things people do on the Internet".</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>yes</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Making sure that the service<br>
provided by Facebook Inc. is continuously available would then be seen<br>
as part of<br>
"Governance of the Internet".<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>no, this is entirely a FB issue, not an IG issue. delegation of the name .facebook however would be a "governance of the Internet" issue.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I'm extremely uncomfortable with the idea of considering governance of<br>
a very proprietary<br>
platform to be part of Internet governance.</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>me too, which is why I don't classify it as such.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
But probably my discomfort<br>
is primarily with<br>
the fact that a platform that (when considered from the perspective of<br>
its user base and<br>
the associated network effects) is as important as Facebook is allowed<br>
to be totally<br>
proprietary - as opposed to it having at least standardized and open<br>
interfaces that would<br>
allow third parties to fully participate in Facebook's user community,<br>
without submitting to<br>
Facebook Inc.'s policies on what they do with people's data, or to<br>
Facebook Inc.'s policies<br>
on application software.<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I can't parse this. In terms of "Governance of the Internet", <a href="http://facebook.com">facebook.com</a> has exactly the same "importance" as <a href="http://bollow.ch">bollow.ch</a>.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Would you like it if there was an organisation who told you what protocols you could and could not use for <a href="http://bollow.ch">bollow.ch</a>?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Cheers,<br>
<br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel