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<div>to add a voice here. It does read as somewhat paradoxal that some in this list look to narrow the definitions of "civil society worthiness" while at the same time claim to espouse diversity.</div>
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<div>The latest version I am beginning to glean by connecting the dots is that those who acquire and share technical and factual knowledge about the object of governance may be unacceptable because they work for a company - or let it be known, actually. Others
may be called unacceptable because they do not express themselves explicitly as anti-makert (for some value of "anti-market".)</div>
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<div>So, a professor of economics who does not believe that the prievet sector and market factors may have an incidence on Internet Governance may also be found lacking in civil society credentials? </div>
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<div>As Nick has pointed out, there are many spaces that operate policy making and governance in some or other multi-stakeholder form. The environment is but one, and particularly worthy of study, both for the similarities and the contrasts, and noen the less
for its history. Multistakeholder environmental governance predates Internet governance by a few decades. Water resources, fisheries, why, even some forms of labor governance are under these optics.</div>
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<div>I think that this particular sub-sub-sub-group of civil society may be approaching a watershed moment. Claims for ideological purity have stepped up pretty steeply. </div>
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<div>And it may be that some people won't walk under yet one more set of Caudian forks leading to "pensee unique" of any brand.</div>
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<div id="divRpF949899" style="direction: ltr;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2" color="#000000"><b>Desde:</b> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] en nombre de Nick Ashton-Hart [nashton@ccianet.org]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 17 de febrero de 2013 12:12<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> governance@lists.igcaucus.org; Norbert Bollow<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [governance] Civil Society (was Re: caucus contribution, consultation and MAG meeting)<br>
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<div>If you proceed along this line you should be aware that the Internet is far from the only policy space in which MS is operating - quite the contrary. One thing worth reading is the Cardozo Report (which is about CS engagement in the UN system as a whole,
but nevertheless will give you some interesting perspectives.</div>
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<div>If any of you haven't read it, I recommend it.<br>
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<div><span style="">Sent from my one of my handheld thingies, please excuse linguistic mangling.</span></div>
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On 17 Feb 2013, at 17:59, Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" target="_blank">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>Avri Doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I think coming up with a more developed set of working guidelines on</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>what it takes for a organization to reasonably consider its self as</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>providing a Multistakeholder environment would be a useful thing to</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>do.</span><br>
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<span>+1</span><br>
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<span>Greetings,</span><br>
<span>Norbert</span><br>
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