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<td valign="top" style="font:inherit;">Agree it would be helpful to know how many votes.<BR><BR>But before re-doing the vote (how many times, until 'we' get the<BR>result we want?), could we have the amendments presented again. With<BR>time for discussion, and then see if again there is support to hold a<BR>vote.<BR><BR>Adam<BR><BR><BR>On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:18 AM, Ian Peter <<a ymailto="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" href="javascript:return">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<BR>> Hi Sala,<BR>><BR>> How many votes short are we of a positive result?<BR>><BR>> That would determine perhaps the best way to go.<BR>><BR>> In this case I dont think there is any great risk in re-opening the vote to<BR>> get extra responses. The results in each ballot are clearly in favour of the<BR>> reforms, the will of the caucus seems clear, it’s just a technicality that<BR>> we have not
had enough responses. (I would feel differently if on any of the<BR>> ballots the no votes were roughly equivalent to the yes votes)<BR>><BR>> So I would suggest re-opening the ballot to allow those who havent voted to<BR>> do so – accompanied by encouragement and reminders.<BR>><BR>> Ian<BR>><BR>> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<BR>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:17 PM<BR>> To: Ian Peter<BR>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="javascript:return">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><BR>> Subject: Re: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<BR>><BR>> Dear Ian and All,<BR>><BR>> You are correct. I apologize to the IGC for the oversight, the mistake is<BR>> mine.<BR>><BR>> As such, we currently have two options and they are:-<BR>><BR>> Option 1<BR>> Accept from the votes that all the proposals have failed based on the<BR>> results of the
votes.<BR>><BR>> Option 2<BR>> Re-run the votes<BR>><BR>><BR>> If we take Option 2, we run the risk of setting a precedent for extending<BR>> voting periods for other things that require voting including coordinator<BR>> elections. Should we consider the current votes invalid and cast fresh votes<BR>> or extend the votes.<BR>><BR>> In any event, the current revisions to the Charter that are on the website<BR>> will be reversed to reflect what it originally was.<BR>><BR>> For the sake of completeness, the record of the votes is as follows:<BR>><BR>> 76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all<BR>> questions, as none of them were compulsory.<BR>><BR>> On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.<BR>> On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.<BR>> On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.<BR>> On
proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.<BR>><BR>> Thank you and Kind Regards,<BR>> Sala<BR>><BR>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ian Peter <<a ymailto="mailto:ian.peter@ianpeter.com" href="javascript:return">ian.peter@ianpeter.com</a>> wrote:<BR>>><BR>>> Sala, are you sure?<BR>>><BR>>> The charter amendment process states that it is 2/3 of membership required<BR>>> for charter amendments, not 2/3 of those who bothered to vote. My<BR>>> understanding is that none of the votes result in charter amendments,<BR>>> because none of them had over 2/3 of members supporting. The relevant<BR>>> charter quote is below.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Amendments to the Charter<BR>>><BR>>> This charter can be amended at any time as proposed by no fewer than ten<BR>>> (10) members and as approved by no less than two-thirds (2/3) of the
members<BR>>> of the IGC. The membership requirements for amending the charter are based<BR>>> on the most currently available voters list. In amending the charter,<BR>>> everyone who voted in the previous election will be deemed a member for<BR>>> amending the charter.<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> (perhaps it should be different but it isn’t on my reading)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> Ian Peter<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> From: Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro<BR>>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:11 AM<BR>>> To: <a ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="javascript:return">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><BR>>> Subject: [governance] Results of IGC Charter Amendment Poll<BR>>><BR>>> Dear All,<BR>>><BR>>> Greetings! This is a brief update on the results of the IGC Charter<BR>>> Amendment Poll.
Here are the results:<BR>>><BR>>> 76 responses were submitted, though some respondents did not answer all<BR>>> questions, as none of them were compulsory.<BR>>><BR>>> On proposal 1, 70 voted in favour, 4 against, and 2 did not vote.<BR>>> On proposal 2, 62 voted in favour, 5 against, and 9 did not vote.<BR>>> On proposal 3, 71 voted in favour, 2 against, and 3 did not vote.<BR>>> On proposal 4, 65 voted in favour, 3 against, and 8 did not vote.<BR>>><BR>>> This means that all proposals pass with greater than 80% approval, which<BR>>> is excess of the 2/3 requirement. The text of the amendments is found at<BR>>> <a href="http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments" target=_blank >http://igcaucus.org/formally-proposed-charter-amendments</a> and the charter as<BR>>> amended is at <a href="http://igcaucus.org/charter" target=_blank
>http://igcaucus.org/charter</a> and<BR>>> <a href="http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process" target=_blank >http://igcaucus.org/nomcom-process</a>.<BR>>><BR>>> I would also like to acknowledge and thank you all for your contributions,<BR>>> elaborate discussion and for taking the time to vote. Thank you to all those<BR>>> who proposed the amendments and initiated the process and to all those who<BR>>> took part. Special thanks also to Norbert for conducting the Poll and to<BR>>> Jeremy for helping out.<BR>>><BR>>> With Kind Regards,<BR>>> Sala (on behalf of the Coordinators)<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> --<BR>>><BR>>> Salanieta Tamanikaiwaimaro aka Sala<BR>>> P.O. Box 17862<BR>>> Suva<BR>>> Fiji<BR>>><BR>>> Twitter: @SalanietaT<BR>>> Skype:Salanieta.Tamanikaiwaimaro<BR>>> Tel: +679 3544828<BR>>> Fiji Cell: +679 998
2851<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> ________________________________<BR>>> ____________________________________________________________<BR>>> You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<BR>>> <a ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="javascript:return">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><BR>>> To be removed from the list, visit:<BR>>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target=_blank >http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><BR>>><BR>>> For all other list information and functions, see:<BR>>> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target=_blank >http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><BR>>> To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<BR>>> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/" target=_blank
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