<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:47 AM, michael gurstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com" target="_blank">gurstein@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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AoC ? may mean many things but if it is said in the context of the Internet means Affirmation of Commitment. For more information, visit: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review">http://www.icann.org/en/about/aoc-review</a><br>
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ATRT ? may mean many things but in ICANN it means Accountability, Transparency and Review Team. You can read about it here: <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-05oct12-en.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-05oct12-en.htm</a><br>
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JPA ? usually refers to Joint Project Agreement but may mean other things etc<br>
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!!!!!!!!<br></blockquote><div><br>You can find ICANN Acronyms here:<br><br><ul><li> <a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/learning/glossary">http://www.icann.org/en/about/learning/glossary</a></li><li><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/glossary">http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/glossary</a></li>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] On Behalf Of "Kleinwächter,<br>
Wolfgang"<br>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:10 AM<br>
To: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; McTim; Suresh Ramasubramanian<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Norbert Bollow<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">Subject: AW: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The<br>
Overzealous Prosecution...)<br>
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In my eyes, the AoC has opend the door for an innovation in the "oversight<br>
issue". The review process has the potential to become a oversighr<br>
mechanism. The good thing with the review is that it is first not<br>
centralized in one body/team/process but in four issue based processes and<br>
second it uis multistakehooder with a stong governmental involvement.<br>
Unfoirtunately the first round was done in a hurry with no model in place<br>
and the results had been not so impressive. However there is potential in<br>
the process. Insofar the 2nd ATRT which will start soon, couod take a big<br>
step forward filling the gap a lot of people feel that some sort of<br>
oversight is needed.<br>
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And AoC/ATRT is indeed better than to have a governmental oversight of 1 (as<br>
it was under the MoU/JPA), 11 (as proposed three years agi by the EU) or 159<br>
(UNITU) governments.<br>
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wolfgang<br>
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Von: <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> im Auftrag von McTim<br>
Gesendet: Mi 23.01.2013 12:46<br>
An: Suresh Ramasubramanian<br>
Cc: <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>; Norbert Bollow<br>
Betreff: Re: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The<br>
Overzealous Prosecution...)<br>
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Hi,<br>
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On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 5:54 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
> The problem being that nature abhors a vacuum. There will be SOME power<br>
structure that will rise following this denationalization - and I am not at<br>
all sure we're going to like the alternative any more than we would like say<br>
the ITU taking things over. Like Norbert I'd be interested in hearing what<br>
McTim has to suggest.<br>
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I can't speak for Avri or Milton, but what I would prefer is zero nation<br>
states providing oversight over ICANN rather than one (or 195).<br>
<br>
I think ICANN can stand alone without an overseer (besides it's own<br>
Board). Of course, I don't think it likely to happen, but it is my<br>
preference.<br>
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--<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
McTim<br>
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