<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Nnena and Suresh<div><br></div><div>As I said previously in response to Jeremy</div><div><br></div><div><div>On Jan 17, 2013, at 11:24 AM, William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">The US State Dept. held a long call yesterday preparing for the WTPF Informal Group of Experts meeting 6-8 February. Among the things we discussed was the draft report's game playing with regard to multistakeholderism, e.g. the conflation by definition of MS and the "WSIS model" of MS, the assertions that the ITU is thereby fully MS, etc., and there was agreement that these concerns should be raised in the IEG with an eye to the next round of edits. As to CS being left out of the current governance of the Internet, if you could specify which institutions and issues you mean and maybe even suggest a sentence, this could be raised as well on next week's call. <br><br>If anyone can be in Geneva then, I'd encourage applying to join the IEG. There's been no CS participation, and while ITU approved me it looks like I can't change a flight to attend. There's a number of points in the draft report where independently stated CS perspectives would be helpful. This is even more true of the draft Opinions that will be negotiated at the WTPF itself (including the Saudi proposal putting ITU in charge of enhanced cooperation), although these apparently won't be dissected in the IEG in detail.<br><br>BTW I still think IGC and other CS networks should write a letter to ITU seeking the right to participate at the WTPF without having to do the staff vetted beauty contest...<br></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>Would definitely encourage anyone who can be there to apply, and for CS to consider saying something encouraging open WTPF participation. I assume a lot of folks will be in town those two weeks in May for WTPF, WSIS Forum, and the IGF consultation/MAG, and it not be ideal if ITU makes participation difficult compared to what everyone's used to.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Bill</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 24, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Nnenna <<a href="mailto:nne75@yahoo.com">nne75@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div><span>Clearly there is an internal ITU selection process. It appears the invite was sent to an already "selected" group. I think the "Have you been to any ITU meeting recently" will be crucial. <br></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br><span></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>I am sending an expression of interest. To the ITU-meeting question above, I answered yes, with IGF Baku and WCIT Dubai. I do not have funding to go.. but I'd rather be accepted first and get funding last minute, then get funding and have to start pushing to get "entrance".<br><br>This is one lesson I
learned from attending WCIT. Not registering early cost me a whole lot.</span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br><span></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">If there is a consensus for Bill and the Geneva folks to speak on behalf of the CS, which I will strongly support, then I will channel my contributions directly to Bill. <br></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Will begin work on the draft doc...<br><span></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="font-size: 16px; font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>Nnenna<br></span></div><div> </div><div><br><span style="font-style: italic; "></span><br></div> <div style="font-family: verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> IGC
<<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:47 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [governance] 3rd meeting of the WTPF Informal Expert Group (IEG)<br> </font> </div> <br>
<br><br>--srs (iPad)<br><br>On 24-Jan-2013, at 16:57, Norbert Bollow <<a ymailto="mailto:nb@bollow.ch" href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>> wrote:<br><br>> How does this work in practice? Is it reasonable to expect that all<br>> civil society people who want to participate in this Informal Expert<br>> Group will be able to do so?<br><br>In practice you need to be ready and willing to travel to Geneva, at your expense, besides participating in email discussions and conference calls.<br><br>If the group thinks it makes sense to nominate someone to go there, who isn't already based in Geneva, it might have to look around for an NGO to fund the individual nominated with a fellowship. Else, as Bill Drake among others are actually based in Geneva (correct me if I am wrong) it might be expedient to let them represent our interests there.<br><br>That is, if there is consensus that we need to participate in the IEG. It is a
significant commitment of time to the individual concerned and Geneva isn't exactly a very inexpensive city (though there are substantial discounts for hotel rooms at ITU rates, and even cheaper accomodation and prices across the French border in Ferney).<br><br>--srs<br><br><br>____________________________________________________________<br>You received this message as a subscriber on the list:<br> <a ymailto="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br>To be removed from the list, visit:<br> <a href="http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing" target="_blank">http://www.igcaucus.org/unsubscribing</a><br><br>For all other list information and functions, see:<br> <a href="http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance" target="_blank">http://lists.igcaucus.org/info/governance</a><br>To edit your profile and to find the IGC's charter, see:<br>
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