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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think all this is a symptom of the discomfort some are feeling at the transition in "Internet Governance" from a techie club to a space where broader issues impacting on and from the "global governance of the Internet" (and the "governance of the global internet") are examined.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Some may be finding the evolution to a multi-lingual, multi-cultural environment more difficult than others.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org [mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Koven Ronald<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> Michael.Kende@analysysmason.com; governance@lists.igcaucus.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The Overzealous Prosecution...)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Hilariously funny -- at least, I suppose that was the intention.<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Michael Kende <<a href="mailto:Michael.Kende@analysysmason.com">Michael.Kende@analysysmason.com</a>><br>To: governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; Koven Ronald <<a href="mailto:kovenronald@aol.com">kovenronald@aol.com</a>><br>Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:09 pm<br>Subject: RE: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The Overzealous Prosecution...)<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_df53caa1-c91c-404b-b8b3-1351663a7b0b"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I did not know that North Yorkshire had a newspaper called the Times… </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:black'>J</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org">governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a> [<a href="mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org?">mailto:governance-request@lists.igcaucus.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Koven Ronald<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:KovenRonald@aol.com">KovenRonald@aol.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The Overzealous Prosecution...)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_550001ee-a706-4405-aec0-6a19ef2aa02d"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All -- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>I really don't understand the clubbish attachment to jargonesque acronymism. Avri may consider it cute to spell out US, but someone who doesn't spontaneously know what WCIT stands for isn't necessarily stupid or unworthy of participation in the IGC, whatever that stands for.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>In the journalism world, it is standard that the first time an organization is mentioned in an article its acronym is spelled out. I don't think anyone tosses aside the NYTimes because it makes itself accessible to a larger segment of its readership than the inside dopester cognoscenti.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Bests, Rony Koven<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <<a href="mailto:suresh@hserus.net">suresh@hserus.net</a>><br>To: governance <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; michael gurstein <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>> <<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a>>; "Kleinwächter, Wolf <br>gang" <<a href="mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de">wolfgang.kleinwaechter@medienkomm.uni-halle.de</a>>; McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>>; Norbert Bollow <<a href="mailto:nb@bollow.ch">nb@bollow.ch</a>><br>Sent: Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:18 am<br>Subject: Re: [governance] "US Exceptionalism" (was Re: Bloomberg - The Overzealous Prosecution...)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_0_f1fce697-99f5-446b-9c76-af2cbd07da7c"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>If this is in the context of Norbert's requesting that we all use less acronyms, </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>this is somewhat like saying we need to teach maths without using confusing </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>terms like, say, pi, sigma etc which are, to be honest, all greek to most people </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>that first encounter them.</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>Maybe work with Diplo or someone to conduct some sort of capacity building for </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>civil society?</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>--srs (iPad)</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>On 24-Jan-2013, at 4:17, "michael gurstein" <<a href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> !!!!!!!!</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> AoC ?</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> ATRT ?</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> JPA ?</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> !!!!!!!!</span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'>> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style='background:white'><tt><span style='color:black'> </span></tt><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></pre></div><div id="AOLMsgPart_1_f1fce697-99f5-446b-9c76-af2cbd07da7c"><pre style='background:white'><tt><span 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