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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On Sunday 20 January 2013 03:00 PM,
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          <div style="line-height:19.190340042114258px">I don't recall
            support the notion of US Exceptionalism from anyone on this
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    No one will profess that term for oneself. However, clearly it is US
    Exceptionalism being practised when:<br>
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    1. anyone agrees or shows strong sympathy with the view that US has
    (not just 'had') a 'historic role' in the evolution of the Internet
    (and perhaps in protection of its 'basic principles', whatever it
    may mean) and <i>therefore</i> some degree of continued
    pre-eminence of the US government in some key IG arrangements,
    including of the CIRs, is fine/ acceptable...<br>
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    2. anyone is fine with US laws/ courts/ executive/ statutory
    authorities (FCC, FTC etc) determine much of how the Internet's
    architecture develops, whether through US law/ jurisdiction’s
    application on the ICANN, or on most of the monopoly global Internet
    mega-corporates.... <br>
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    In fact, if the IGC can agree that such US exceptionalism is <i>wrong
      and unacceptable</i>, and sincerely begins to make political
    proposals to come out of it, we would have reconciled a lot of
    political differences among the members of IGC, and also made a
    great contribution to the area of global governance of the Internet.<br>
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    parminder <br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Guru
          गुरु <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div>On 01/20/2013 01:16 AM, John Curran wrote:<br>
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                          <div>[The Panglossian world of US
                            Exceptionalism.... of course these matters
                            are discussed and debated, but dare to do
                            anything about it and then those will be put
                            in their place, or no?]<br>
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                          <div> The Overzealous Prosecution of Aaron
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                    <div>Riaz - </div>
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                    <div>A very good question; I personally don't
                      subscribe to a view of US Exceptionalism </div>
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                      can more readily make comparisons),</div>
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              John,<br>
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              Do you mean you do not think US is exceptional / it is
              wrong to believe that the US is exceptional<br>
              or<br>
              Do you mean that there is no belief prevalent about US
              exceptionalism<br>
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              Can you elaborate on this remark<br>
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              thanks,<br>
              Guru<br>
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