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SRS<br>
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For the record, I note this is an ad hominem attack. But as usual
"right wing" bashers like this do not provoke calls for balance and
openness. So as per "eye for an eye" which is fair, given I am left
to hang with this:<br>
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I am open to engaging substantively, but please do not achieve your
right wing obsequious ambitions be achieved at my expense. You may
land a plum job or contract, but I think you have to develop not
just crass but sophisticated crass like some of the status quoists
on this list. In other words, you need to up your game.<br>
<br>
This is also for the record because the next time the "right" on
this list bashes someone on the left I am going to trawl this out to
expose double standards. This is the second time (from my recent
trawling) that ad hominem attacks on the "left" has gone unnoticed.
I do not do this to hold any complaints hostage or to have a
chilling effect. In fact, quite the opposite, it will be used to
chill those who are very quick to call for balance/peace/dialogue
while spitting fire. <br>
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Riaz<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2013/01/06 06:52 PM, Suresh
Ramasubramanian wrote:<br>
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<div>So do you get all your news from just <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://news.google.com">news.google.com</a>
and other google search results, instead of Facebook shares,
Riaz gleefully posting every article he sees about google being
investigated for, say, giggling in church?</div>
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<div>And did Riaz find this news item anywhere other than google
search?</div>
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<div>And does this reality distortion field google is supposed to
have actually hide any search results from you that are negative
to it? Like search for "google FTC" and you get the EU action,
statements from Microsoft slamming the decision etc.</div>
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<div>And the last link on page 1 of the search results showing
just where google got spanked by the FTC. <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/111650/why-does-everyone-think-google-beat-the-ftc#">http://www.tnr.com/blog/plank/111650/why-does-everyone-think-google-beat-the-ftc#</a> is
worth a read as a kind f counterpoint to all the commentary
about how google got a get out of jail card because of intensive
lobbying.<br>
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Can we please</div>
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<div>1. Have a reality check here</div>
<div>2. Go back to discussing Internet governance </div>
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--srs (iPad)</div>
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On 06-Jan-2013, at 22:00, "michael gurstein" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gurstein@gmail.com">gurstein@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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Riaz (and sorry for the really awkward phrasing… <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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wondering whether it wouldn't be better to
"investigate" Google for possible "freedom of thought"
violations rather than issues concerning "freedom of
speech"… Google has the potential for much more
serious impacts on our capacity to know (or not know)
certain things, than on what we can say or not say…<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
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